[Foundation-l] Reply to Mark

[Florence Devouard]

May I kindly clarify that the previous message was written by Phoebe and 
not by Florence ?

Ant

Ben Yates wrote:
> I think you misread the "personally discriminated" line -- it seemed
> like florence was using that wording to specifically acknowledge the
> extent of the problem, not to diminish it.
> 
> That said, it seems pretty clear that the location was sort of agreed
> on backroom-style because of the symbolism of alexandria's library.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Claudio Mastroianni
> <gattonero at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  Il giorno 29/feb/08, alle ore 08:30, phoebe ayers ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>  > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >> This thread should probably have a more appropriate title.
>>  >>
>>  >> As others have eloquently said, Wikimedia is about free - as in
>>  >> freedom. The
>>  >> choice of where to meet, as participants in Wikimedia projects,
>>  >> should
>>  >> without doubt take this principle into account.
>>  >
>>  > It should probably be pointed out just one more time -- even if it is
>>  > exceedingly obvious -- that our Egyptian colleagues are participants
>>  > in our community as well. And to my knowledge, they have not yet been
>>  > able to attend a Wikimania, due to visa issues with the countries
>>  > involved where we have held the conference in the past. Believe me, it
>>  > wasn't through lack of trying, all three years.
>>
>>  Let me understand: we - gays, lesbians, women "with immoral
>>  behaviours" should pay the fee for something YOU - the Board, the
>>  Wikimania Committee, the Whatever - made in the past?
>>  Who choose Taipei last years? You knew there would have been Visa
>>  problems.
>>  It's not our fault.
>>
>>
>>  > I can say that this conference choice was not made for political
>>  > reasons or as a political statement; that much should be clear.
>>
>>  Oh, come on. Don't try to fool us (again). This choice has obviously
>>  some political reasons too, just like Taipei last year ("Freedom in
>>  place where freedom doesn't exist").
>>
>>
>>  > I also
>>  > sincerely hope that anyone who can't attend this year -- whether it's
>>  > because Egypt is too far, because they don't have enough money,
>>  > because they fear for their safety traveling, or any other reason --
>>  > will be able to join the conference in future years in other places,
>>  > because Wikimania is a truly amazing event.
>>
>>  Again: whatever if you're gay/lesbian/woman/whatever, just don't come.
>>  And thanks for the contributions,cheers.
>>
>>
>>  > I am personally very sorry that people are upset over the location
>>  > choice and feel personally discriminated against because of it.
>>
>>  What? "Personally discriminated"?
>>  That's offensive: trying to "invert" the problem, accusing the
>>  complainers.
>>
>>
>>
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