[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal sent to the Board

Tue Apr 1 01:58:49 UTC 2008

My objection was not to her being a representative of the commons or  
wikibooks community; however she was put forth as an en.wikipedia  
representative, and for that I absolutely object.

-Dan
On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Andrew Whitworth wrote:

> She's also been doing some excellent, drama-free work on Wikibooks. I
> wouldn't judge a Wikimedian's worth by the way the Wikipedia community
> feels towards them, since I've always found Wikipedia to be a little
> bit dramatic and irrational. Of course as an outsider, I'm sure I only
> ever hear the bad news.
>
> --Andrew Whitworth
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Geoffrey Plourde  
> <geo.plrd at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> look at her work on commons. It seems fairly exemplary.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
>> To: effeietsanders at gmail.com; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org 
>> >
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:17:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council -  
>> proposal sent to the Board
>>
>> I have serious concerns with Durova being considered as a
>> representative of the en.wikipedia community. Perhaps you missed the
>> massive drama over the past months that resulted in her losing her
>> administrator status. I do not feel that anyone who has so recently
>> felt one of the most significant backlashes the community has ever
>> given as a unified body, should be selected to speak for that
>> community. That's not just a slap in the face; it's a kick in the
>> balls at the same time.
>>
>> -Dan
>> On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:46 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am very glad that the proposal for establishing a provisional
>>> volunteer council received such a lot support both on this list as  
>>> in
>>> private conversations.
>>>
>>> Since the request for candidates for the Provisional Volunteer
>>> Council, I received quite some nominations. However, unfortunately I
>>> have to admit that there were no (willing) candidates from some
>>> important regions amongst these. As I have to work with the  
>>> candidates
>>> that were nominated, I was therefore unable to candidate someone  
>>> from
>>> these regions.
>>>
>>> I did try however, to get at least a few projects represented, and
>>> also a more technical person (from the developers side of the
>>> volunteer spectrum). Please find my final suggestion list below in  
>>> the
>>> proposal (attached again for reference - only one minor spelling and
>>> layout changes).
>>>
>>> Please note that this is a *proposed* resolution, and not yet
>>> accepted.
>>>
>>> I know this list is not very long. And some area's are still missing
>>> in representation. However, I trust this group wholehearely, and
>>> suppose that they will make sure as a first thing to get at least  
>>> one
>>> or more projects better represented (such as Wikinews or Wikiversity
>>> which have a very different character).
>>>
>>> If you have major concerns with respect to this list of candidates,
>>> please send them to this list or communicate them to the Board (I am
>>> not sure which route is the best for that though). I will make no
>>> changes any more myself, but the Board is of course able to  
>>> determine
>>> the list as it likes.
>>>
>>>
>>> With kind regards,
>>>
>>> Lodewijk Gelauff
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Whereas the Board,
>>>
>>> * recognizes the value of volunteers in Wikimedia projects and that
>>> their work is the very reason of their success,
>>> * values the volunteers' opinions and takes them into serious
>>> consideration when discussing issues involving the volunteers,
>>> * is of the opinion that these volunteers should have a strong say  
>>> in
>>> changes in the articles of incorporation and the bylaws of the
>>> Wikimedia Foundation,
>>> * considers a Volunteer Council a valuable intermediary between
>>> volunteers and the Foundation, and as a good instrument to hear the
>>> voice of the volunteers:
>>>
>>> it is hereby resolved that:
>>>
>>> 1. The Board of Trustees hereby creates a Volunteer Council, to  
>>> serve
>>> as a valuable complement to the Staff, Advisory Board and Board of
>>> Trustees.
>>> 2. Without restricting the generality of this provision the purposes
>>> of the Volunteer Council shall include:
>>>
>>> 1) Offering advice and support on issues relevant to the Wikimedia
>>> Volunteers,
>>> 2) Recommanding the opening or closure of Wikimedia projects,
>>> 3) Approving changes to the articles of incorporation or bylaws of
>>> the Wikimedia Foundation and
>>> 4) Assist in establishing a clear separation between the legal
>>> responsibilities of the Wikimedia Foundation as an Internet Service
>>> Provider and the community decisions for the Wikimedia Projects.
>>>
>>> 3. The members from the Volunteer Council must be volunteers within
>>> Wikimedia.
>>> 4. The Provisional Volunteer Council shall report to the Board no
>>> later than September 1, 2008, which report shall include
>>> recommendations regarding the number and composition of the  
>>> Volunteer
>>> Council, and how the members of the Council shall be chosen. Said
>>> report shall also include recommendations regarding the distribution
>>> of rights and responsibilities between the Board and Council, and  
>>> any
>>> changes in the by-laws that may be necessary to implement this.
>>> 5. Except where it pertains to its own procedures, no decision of  
>>> the
>>> Provisional Volunteer Council shall bind any person.
>>> 6. On receipt of the said report the Board shall take such steps  
>>> as it
>>> deems necessary to confirm and empower the Volunteer Council, and
>>> provide for a transition of operations from the Provisional  
>>> Volunteer
>>> Council.
>>> 7. Members of the Volunteer Council will not be financially
>>> compensated for their activity. On approval by the Board of Trustees
>>> expenses of the Provisional Volunteer Council and Volunteer  
>>> Council in
>>> the fulfillment of their duties may be reimbursed.
>>> 8. The following people are hereby appointed as member of the
>>> Provisional Volunteer Council:
>>>
>>> Michael Bimmler, Mbimmler (Main project: de.wikipedia)
>>> Yaroslav Blanter, Yaroslav Blanter (Main project: ru.wikipedia)
>>> Lise Broer, Durova (Main projects: en.wikipedia and
>>> commons.wikimedia )
>>> Jesse Plamondon-Willard, Pathoschild (Main projects: en.wikisource
>>> and meta.wikimedia )
>>> Sydney Poore, FloNight (Main project: en.wikipedia)
>>> Milos Rancic, Millosh (Main project: sr.wikipedia)
>>> Ray Saintonge, Eclecticology (Main project: en.wikisource,
>>> en.wikipedia)
>>> Andrew Whitworth, Whiteknight (Main project: en.wikibooks)
>>> Michal Zlatkovsky, Timichal (Main project: cs.wikipedia)
>>>
>>> 9. The members of the Provisional Volunteer Council may on a 2/3  
>>> vote
>>> of all its members add such additional members as they may deem
>>> necessary and useful to their deliberations.
>>>
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