[Foundation-l] Warrantless (government) surveillance of reader activity. Was: Release of squid log data

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sun Sep 16 05:21:25 UTC 2007


Hoi,
Let us defer all talk about changing the login functionality until we have
SUL implemented. Let us get SUL soon and first !
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 9/16/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> On 9/15/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Everyone should have the ability to access Wikipedia in privacy, not
> > just the few who have the knowledge, patience, and foresight to
> > install and use TOR.
>
> Well, they do - we're just not actively promoting SSL. Question: Are
> we near the limits of the amount of traffic we can handle via SSL, or
> might it be worthwhile to experiment with adding a "Secure login" link
> to Special:Userlogin?
>
> > We can take action to reduce these problems, and completely eliminate
> > (2),  by running some Tor exists ourselves as I proposed at
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-September/080667.html
>
> That might be worthwhile; have you spoken to our tech team or Sue about
> it?
>
> > But I think it's important that we understand that Tor is not a very
> > mainstream solution: it requires expertise unavailable to, a level of
> > protection unneeded by (there is little reason to hide that you are
> > accessing Wikipedia at all), and performance undesirable to to most
> > readers.
>
> I think it would definitely be useful to at least be capable of
> handling the amount of traffic from having a "secure login" link on
> all user login pages. But if it requires significant investments of
> time and money to do so, it wouldn't be in my top 5 tech priority
> list.
> --
> Toward Peace, Love & Progress:
> Erik
>
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