[Foundation-l] Language Prevention Committee created

[The Cunctator]

On 3/30/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> When you forget what Donald Rumsfeld stands for politically, being
> compared
> to Donald Rumsfeld is a compliment. When you criticize and do not know
> what
> has been done, it does not matter really does it ?
>

Again, beautifully Rumsfeldian.


As to "official capacity" be careful because it is a knife that cuts both
> ways. When certain things have an official status and there are other
> parties required to do their part, it is reasonable to blame the
> consequences on those that fail to fulfil their part. The language
> committee
> is dependent on others in this.
>
> I fail therefore to see what the language committee should do differently.
> I
> fail to see it because the WMF has said officially that this does not have
> a
> priority. It is not for us to wonder why.



The simple fact is that no new language Wikipedias have been created since
the establishment of the language subcommittee, whereas before the
subcommittee new language Wikipedias were regularly generated. Furthermore,
if what people have been saying in this thread is correct, there are several
languages that are ready and have been ready for establishment.

The reasonable assumption is that something in the process is broken.

The nature of the response from committee members serves to support that
assumption.


> On 3/30/07, The Cunctator <cunctator at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/30/07, Cary Bass <cbass at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Cunctator wrote:
> > > > On 3/29/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hoi,
> > > >> We do not like to bang on the drums of what we have achieved. We do
> > not
> > > even
> > > >> mind when when it is not perceived that we have achieved anything
> at
> > > all. If
> > > >> things go well, it should not really matter because it detracts
> from
> > > what
> > > >> our organisation is there for; ie creating and providing free
> > content.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Wow. It's like listening to Donald Rumsfeld.
> > > >
> > > > Are you actually arguing that not achieving the stated purpose of
> your
> > > > committee should be considered a sign of success?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Please be respectful of other users on this email list.
> > >
> >
> > I am respectful of other members on the list.
> >
> > Would you like me to refer to particular quotations by Donald Rumsfeld
> > that
> > Gerard's statement resembles?
> >
> > Do you think it is disrespectful to criticize the actions of people
> acting
> > in an official capacity for the project?
> >
> > Or do you just think it's disrespectful to compare people to Donald
> > Rumsfeld?
> >
> > At least that I can understand.
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