[Foundation-l] donation header on all sites: who is responsible and where is it announced?

[Joshua Brady]

- Original message -
2007/7/14, THURNER rupert  <rupert.thurner at wikimedia.ch>: I think you
refer to replacing the version of the  sitenotice that is visible for
non-logged in users, or possibly all users?  with a default message.
If the wiki in question have a message of their own  in the default
will not show; you can take a local decision on the wiki to  override
it. Who decides to put this default message there that shows if  you
don't write anything in your local file, I don't know. Good question.
Is an announcement considered  important? That page was put together
before, or rather  during, the last fundraiser which actually was
slightly chaotic. If there are  mistakes or outdated things, I am not
surprised. The various languages  have chosen different solutions as
to if the messages regarding all  countries should be in the language
of the wiki website, or in the language  spoken in that country. One
can also question the order of the countries  mentioned, as you do.
Since you post from .ch, I guess you are mainly  concerned about the
Chinese version. From most languages (I hope) there is  someone who
can edit foundationwiki; edit rights there are not handed  out so
easily, due to safety reasons. Checking page history, it seems  the
Chinese page in question was mainly edited by User:Vipuser.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Vipuser Hopefully you can
find him/her on a Chinese language project and talk to  him/her. If
the translation contains silly errors, please be kind!  and remember
that these pages were translated in a hurry.  Is there another,
general way to find if someone  who speaks a specific language can
edit foundationwiki?  Also, to what extent will these fundraiser pages
 be re-used? To what extent _are_ they reused?  Rupert's email makes
me guess they are used in  the "sitenotice" for non-logged in users.
If they are and will be used,  then it might be worth while to put
some effort into improving what's  there. Some of us left some of the
pages untranslated, and other pages could  use some improvement
(remember, this was done in great hurry).  Suggestions on how to
handle the pages on tax deducibility (sp?) regarding
languages/countries (text about France in French, or it all in the
target language?)  would be neat, too. Personally, I think it makes
more sense to  translate it all into the target language. I could have
been an American finding  these pages when browsing huwiki, and if I
find then on huwiki then I probably  expect to find the information in
Hungarian. If I prefer to read the  text in some other language, then
I am probably able to find the  language I want in the language links
on top of the page.  /HB

For the record .ch is switzerland, ch-wp is china. Language codes !=
Country codes.

On 7/15/07, habj <sweetadelaide at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/7/14, THURNER rupert <rupert.thurner at wikimedia.ch>:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > who would be responsible
> > * for putting the "your continued donations ..." header on all the
> > websites
>
>
> I think you refer to replacing the version of the sitenotice that is visible
> for non-logged in users, or possibly all users? with a default message. If
> the wiki in question have a message of their own in the default will not
> show; you can take a local decision on the wiki to override it. Who decides
> to put this default message there that shows if you don't write anything in
> your local file, I don't know.
>
> * the announcment before it happens
>
>
> Good question. Is an announcement considered important?
>
> * for http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Deductibility_of_donations which
> > seems
> >   not alphabetically ordered outdated?
>
>
> That page was put together before, or rather during, the last fundraiser
> which actually was slightly chaotic. If there are mistakes or outdated
> things, I am not surprised. The various languages have chosen different
> solutions as to if the messages regarding all countries should be in the
> language of the wiki website, or in the language spoken in that country. One
> can also question the order of the countries mentioned, as you do.
>
> Since you post from .ch, I guess you are mainly concerned about the Chinese
> version. From most languages (I hope) there is someone who can edit
> foundationwiki; edit rights there are not handed out so easily, due to
> safety reasons. Checking page history, it seems the Chinese page in question
> was mainly edited by User:Vipuser.
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Vipuser Hopefully you can find
> him/her on a Chinese language project and talk to him/her. If the
> translation contains silly errors, please be kind! and remember that these
> pages were translated in a hurry.
>
> Is there another, general way to find if someone who speaks a specific
> language can edit foundationwiki?
>
> Also, to what extent will these fundraiser pages be re-used? To what extent
> _are_ they reused?
>
> Rupert's email makes me guess they are used in the "sitenotice" for
> non-logged in users. If they are and will be used, then it might be worth
> while to put some effort into improving what's there. Some of us left some
> of the pages untranslated, and other pages could use some improvement
> (remember, this was done in great hurry). Suggestions on how to handle the
> pages on tax deducibility (sp?) regarding languages/countries (text about
> France in French, or it all in the target language?) would be neat, too.
> Personally, I think it makes more sense to translate it all into the target
> language. I could have been an American finding these pages when browsing
> huwiki, and if I find then on huwiki then I probably expect to find the
> information in Hungarian. If I prefer to read the text in some other
> language, then I am probably able to find the language I want in the
> language links on top of the page.
>
>
> /HB
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