[Foundation-l] Foundation Discretion on Personnel Matters

Nathan Awrich nawrich at gmail.com
Mon Dec 17 01:05:46 UTC 2007


Just my personal reaction to this... You're on the wrong thread, and
the wrong list. Since you are about to be unbanned (and perhaps headed
back that way...) the best venue for addressing these issues is
on-wiki and/or through appeals to the ArbCom list.

On Dec 16, 2007 4:36 PM, Rob Smith <nobs03 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/16/07, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Of course, that's begging the assumption that the ArbCom was in error.
> > Forgive me if I'm not overwhelmed by your pleas.
> >
> > -Dan
>
>
> The presiding Arbitrator from the original case made the Motion on my
> behalf<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=167156468#Nobs01_and_others>,
> and has admitted to errors on several occasions.  Will Beback has made
> efforts to remove some of the defamatory
> material<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%253ALaRouchetalk&diff=165702565&oldid=165086118>from
> a Template and a user subpage.  SlimVirgin and I had a recent private
> meditation (mediated by MONGO) over the unsubstantiated and untrue
> remarks<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Attack_sites/Proposed_decision&diff=160962861&oldid=160957768>she
> made in the WP/Attack sites case and I believe we have a workable
> solution.
>
> No one wants to revisit the particulars from the Nobs01 case.  OTOH, it is
> my firm belief the Brandt controversy, and the Katefan0 & Essjay
> controversies that grew out of the Brandt case could all have been avoided,
> if I had been afforded simple common decency and fairness in the original
> hearing.  The ball is now in WP's court -- Wikipedia can fix this problem
> now, or it will linger continue to linger.
>
> One thing is certain, I will not shut up and accept the false statements
> made about myself that now are being spoken by Wikipedia in the Nobs01 case
> until it is remedied.
>
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 2007 3:18 PM, Rob Smith <nobs03 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/16/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No sir, the record is clear I have used WP's Dispute Resolution
> > procedures
> > > to resolve disputes. Mr. Wales I've been informed is somewhat familiar
> > > with
> > > my case. Passage of this
> > > Motion<
> > >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=167156468#Nobs01_and_others
> > > >could
> > > have resolved it.  User:JzG has invited me to summarize
> > > the problem here<
> > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085632.html
> > > >sometime
> > > next week.  Everyone familiar with the case admits to errors,
> > > including the original complainant who admits to exaggerated claims
> > simply
> > > to convince ArbCom to accept hearing the case.  Unfortunately, Wikipedia
> > > has
> > > become the speaker of defamatory information about me enshrined in an
> > > Arbitration ruling reproduced on 268 web pages accessible to Google.  A
> > > simple admission on the part of Wikipedia to its own error will end
> > > discussion of this problem forever.
> > >
> > >  <
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085632.html>
> > >
> > > On Dec 16, 2007 8:49 PM, Rob Smith < nobs03 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 12/15/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are human and can make errors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Jimbo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.  My two year ban is up tomorrow. We simply need yourself, the
> > > > > Trustee's, or whoever is incharge to admit to errors in the Nobso1
> > and
> > > > > others case, which would remove the libelous content enshrined in
> > that
> > > > > ArbCom ruling, and then we can stop talking about it forever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Smith
> > > > > Nobs01
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