[Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia ethnocentric policy affects other communities

David Gerard dgerard at gmail.com
Thu Dec 21 20:10:00 UTC 2006


On 21/12/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> David Gerard schreef:

> >> The SUL is almost a year late as it is. All issues have been discussed
> >> at length at the time. Postponing it now it not really an option. There
> >> is also no capacity to come up with a technical solution. There is even
> >> no consensus as to what the problem is.

> > So you really are saying that your only answer to the concerns raised
> > is "fuck you"? That's disappointing. How do you plan to get every
> > en:wp admin to go along with you?

> Again you misquote.


That was your precise text I quoted. What part are you claiming I have altered?


>To what extend do you think the admins of other
> projects are asked what they think about the imposition of all kinds of
> functionality that was discussed at length at the en.wikipedia or some
> such. Really, much of the problem has already been solved. With SUL it
> will be even easier to find if someone is a know good or a known troll.
> You just seem to be unwilling to acknowledge these facts, by also using
> not so polite language you make yourself less relevant in my eyes.


Then answer the questions, please, rather than taking an attitude of
arrogant dismissal (as you have throughout this discussion) that I do
think can accurately be summarised as "fuck you"

I have put these as simply as I can. Are you able to answer them at all?

Do you acknowledge that it was put in place because of a real problem?
[ ] yes
[ ] no

Do you acknowledge that the problems stated in this thread exist or
are thought to exist?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

Do you have any solutions for these problems other than every
administrator on every language Wikipedia being required to learn
every script used on Wikipedia to be able to effectively be an
administrator on their own-language Wikipedia?
[ ] Yes, my solution is ...
[ ] No, if I've learnt all these scripts and installed all these fonts
they can too
[ ] No (some other reason ...)

Are you able to answer even "yes or no" questions trying to discern
your position as being anything other than arrogant dismissal?


- d.



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