[Foundation-l] New project proposal - Wikibuilder

[Daniel Mayer]

--- Christiaan Briggs <christiaan at last-straw.net> wrote:
> I don't think this is a correct summary of the situation. If your 
> statements were true they would beg the question why [[Proposals for 
> new projects]] and [[New project policy]] exist at all on Wikimedia?

That is the place to propose new ideas and individual pages linked from that is
the place to develop them, gain input and try to get people interested. It is
also the place to prove that the proposed project is 
1) fits within our educational mission
2) is not something that could be done within an existing project.

> [[Proposals for new projects]] clearly states that "Wikimedia is not a 
> free hosting company for any kind of wikis. If your project doesn't fit 
> the ideals of Wikimedia you are probably better off with a wiki hosting 
> company such a http://wikidev.net or http://www.wikicities.com or 
> hosting it on your own." Wikibuilder clearly fits the ideals of 
> Wikimedia.

How so? The proposal and how it would 'clearly fit' are not at all clear to me.
Nor has the reasoning not to have this be part of an existing project. 

> At the risk of sounding patronising--I really don't intend this to 
> be--my guess is that you, along with many others involved, have a 
> natural inclination to reject Wikibuilder as not fitting in because 
> it's a not a conventional project along the lines of science or media, 
> hence your comments that Wikicities is the correct venue, in seeming 
> contradiction to [[Proposals for new projects]].

As the person leading this idea the onus is on you to convince others that this
is a good idea. 

> And I certainly don't think Wikibuilder needs to be up and running 
> _anywhere_ before a decision can be made with regards to Wikimedia's 
> mandate. A comprehensive proposal is enough to make this decision.

Then get busy writing and winning hearts and minds. :)

-- mav


		
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