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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And an encyclopedia we should add. That's
probably the best argument I've ever heard on this issue. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mina</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=andrewcleung@hotmail.com
href="mailto:andrewcleung@hotmail.com">Andrew Leung</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=education@lists.wikimedia.org
href="mailto:education@lists.wikimedia.org">Wikimedia Education</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Wikimedia Education]
Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary schools in Serbia</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>One counter-argument that you can make is that a dictionary used
in school would have some dirty words that are not appropriate for school
children, yet you don't see those definitions being blacked out by permanent
marker or having the entire page ripped out because it contained those
words.<BR><BR>Andrew<BR>
<DIV><BR>"Fill the world with children who care and things start looking
up."<BR></DIV><BR><BR>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:21:49 +0200<BR>From: gabriel@thullen.com<BR>To:
education@lists.wikimedia.org<BR>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education]
Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary schools in Serbia<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Like I said before, great job for both Israel and Serbia
!<BR><BR></DIV>There is one very important issue that we (as WM Chapters) need
to address, now that Wikipedia editing will be part of the official school
curriculum. How do we answer teachers or parents raising concerns about the
so-called "adult" material found on Wikipedia ? Some of it is downright porn,
and we (as Chapters) have to be able to answer these concerns.
<BR><BR></DIV>[[:fr:Catégorie:Position sexuelle]] = [[:en:Category:Sex
positions]] = other interwikis<BR></DIV>or<BR></DIV>Commons:
Category:Wiki-Sexuality Images<BR>
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<DIV>The Geneva education department has an Internet filter that blocks some
of the articles on the English wiki, for example <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering_%28sexual_act%29"
target=_blank>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering_(sexual_act)</A> is blocked, but
does not filter the French wiki <A
href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doigtage"
target=_blank>fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doigtage</A>. Obviously, the web filter
companies are US (aka English speaking), so they may or may not filter other
language Wikipedia pages. What we absolutely should avoid is this type of web
filtering, and certainly not such filtering done by separate
countries.<BR><BR>Please note that I have always been opposed to censorship in
general and opposed to censoring Wikimedia in particular. The issue has been
raised a few times over the past few years, and I have always been able to
provide adequate answers to the parents or school officials. But now that
Wikipedia editing is a part of the official curriculum, these questions need a
more "official" answer as well. Information should be freely available to all,
even so-called "adult" information. As a school teacher using the web in
class, I have to keep a watch on the web sites the students browse and discuss
with them how to deal with inappropriate web sites that slip through the
filters. I do the same when my students start surfing on sex-ed related
Wikipedia articles...<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I can just imagine the uproar in Israel when one or the other of the more
conservative religious groups finds out the kind of articles young students
are subjected to in class... I say that for Israel, but the same uproar will
be possible in some of the Swiss Cantons when Wikipedia editing becomes an
official part of their curriculum (each Canton has its own curriculum, some
Cantons include religious education, some do not, and so on). We need, at the
very least, a set of arguments we can use to defend Wikipedia. For the moment,
nobody has said anything, probably because adults are usually not very
curious. Our kids, on the other hand, tend to explore a lot
more...<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, that was some food for thought. I am looking forward to learning
about how you will cope with that kind of issue, I know that the same problem
might arise some day here in Switzerland.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Gabe<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Vojtěch Dostál
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz"
target=_blank>vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Below is my Wednesday e-mail which was denied from the conversation
because I sent it from an incorrect adress:<BR><BR>---<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Congratulations to Israel and Serbia!<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Now comes the tough job for you, though! You have to prove to the
public & to the teachers that Wikipedia is actually worth having in the
school curriculum. The worst scenario is teachers and parents going crazy
about the latest government's invention. You should really make Wikipedia as
beneficial to the students as possible, and you also need to prepare the
community for an enormous workload!<BR><BR></DIV>Not an easy job, but worth
working for!<BR><BR></DIV>Good luck both of you, and I will be looking
forward to the first results.<BR><BR>Vojtěch Dostál<BR>
<DIV class=ecxgmail_extra>vice-chair<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxgmail_extra>Wikimedia Czech Republic<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>2014-06-11 8:52 GMT+02:00 Oona Castro <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:oonacastro@gmail.com"
target=_blank>oonacastro@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>:
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<DIV>excellent news! congratulations!<BR></DIV><BR></DIV>Did you guys
see Israel is also to get Wikipedia included in the curriculum of public
schools? Sorry for crossposting in case it has been shared here:
<A
href="http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18059"
target=_blank>http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18059</A><BR><BR></DIV>I'm
really excited to hear and learn more about these initiatives, though
I'm really concerned about our limitations in the Brazilian education
system. <BR>
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<DIV>Oona<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On 11 June 2014 03:42, Nurunnaby Chowdhury
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Wow..excellent
news Mile!<BR>Congratulations..<BR><BR>--<BR>
<DIV
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Chowdhury | @nhasive<BR></DIV>
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IEG, WMF<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Shani <SPAN
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<P dir=ltr>Great news, Mile!<BR>Looking forward to seeing you in
London and hear some more, :-) <BR><SPAN><FONT
color=#888888>Shani.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On 11 Jun 2014 01:31, "Jens Best" <<A
href="mailto:jens.best@wikimedia.de"
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<DIV>That's really great news. Congratulations to all people
involved in preparing and realizing this important success.
<BR><BR></DIV>best regards<BR><BR></DIV>Jens Best<BR>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>2014-06-10 23:13 GMT+02:00 Mile Kiš
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:milens@vikimedija.org"
target=_blank>milens@vikimedija.org</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(62,69,76)"><FONT
face="verdana, sans-serif">Hello everyone! </FONT></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(62,69,76); FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face="verdana, sans-serif">I am honored to inform you that
several months of integrating Wikipedia into primary and
secondary schools in Serbia has finally paid off!</FONT></SPAN>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face="verdana, sans-serif"><FONT color=#3e454c><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">After the
Ministry has prescribed that from September 2014 all students of
the second year of secondary school curriculum <B><I><U>must
study wiki tools</U></I></B>, Institute for the Improvement of
knowledge and education has included a course on Wikipedia in
its catalog of programs of continuous professional development
of teachers, professors and other school personnel. We got
accreditation for two years. Not a lot
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#3e454c
face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">applicants got
accreditation.</SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">This course
will start in December. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">first challenge
we successfully crossed :) next will
come. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(62,69,76)"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(62,69,76)">I
started writing blog post about this and hope it will be ready
on 20 June. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(62,69,76)"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
color=#3e454c face="verdana, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">If you have
some questions I will be happy to answer you
:)</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14px"><FONT color=#0b5394
face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Vikimedija Srbije - <A
href="http://rs.wikimedia.org"
target=_blank>rs.wikimedia.org</A> - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14px"><FONT color=#0b5394
face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><A target=_blank>00381 (0)60 7
454 772</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0b5394 face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14px">"Zamislite svet u kome svaka osoba ima
slobodan pristup celokupnom ljudskom znanju. To je ono na čemu
mi radimo."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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