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<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><!--/htdig_noindex--><!--beginarticle-->Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Following the decisions on Wednesday I have changed the ComProj pages<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>around to meet our new, deformalised structure. I am tired and thus<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>probably haven't made things as clear as they should be so if someone<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>could take a look and neaten things up that would be great.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Let's see if this works :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sean<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hey Sean,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Just had a look. I’m totally exhausted too. Talk about
mixing directories. But I can see where you’re going. Goodoh.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Reading</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> between the
lines, we have been here.</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And now we’re here. <a
href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So I guess this is what yuall discussed at the last IRC
meeting although there is no record yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Look I can only suggest to you that we’ve got to start
thinking outside the square(s). There comes a time where a wiki can’t be
all things to all people, and the comms tools wikipedians are offered (IRC,
elists) are just past their use bys.. It comes down to this. <a
href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Projects/Discussion_Outlets">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Projects/Discussion_Outlets</a>
I’m asking you to think from the “discussion inlets”
perspective, where every inlet will be based around some group or committee.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ultimately, just like a wiki, if you give people the right
tools, and make their use simple enough, and show them through using it, they’ll
find their own level. Where a wiki has proved just so incredibly successful
for producing a library, we need something just as simple to use which supports
their communication, and by this I mean both the asynchronous stuff –
where I’ve pointed to sitepoint.com’s forums and blogs as an
example – but also their real time comms, which range from an msg type
tool all the way through to accessgrid-type rooms.or meeting space a la <a
href="http://labspace.open.ac.uk/">http://labspace.open.ac.uk/</a> If it needs
a manual, forget it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So as a starting point can I again suggest that we consider
designing a forum. The integration with instant messaging tools can be
something which is considered while it grows legs. And could we (me) see about
getting a sponsor (and development partner) for “it”, because the
higher bandwidth stuff will blow any budget even if it’s halfway as successful
as Wikipedia.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>simonfj<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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