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On 5/17/2011 7:05 AM, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
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If we buy this contributions with a loss of liberty. Then yes.
Nothing is as worthy as liberty.<br>
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We rely on donations - whether small cultural donations or monetary
donations or major media contributions. There is always going to be
some type of "freedom lost" when dealing with all donors of anytime.
And I'm sure <i>anyone</i> who has worked in the non-profit sector
in <i>the majority</i> of countries can attest to that. <br>
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I assume that if people wish to see those of us who believe in
quality educational images (hence the Commons mission) 'go away'
which has been declared multiple times, then perhaps those seeking
to showcase images with little educational merit and deep creator
connection (dare I say conflict of interest, it is Tobia's image
anyway, so of course he wants it up there, who wouldn't in his
situation) should perhaps showcase their own artwork or personal
imagery on their own website. <br>
<br>
Or flickr, which I have been using to showcase images I wish to not
release into CC or images of my self, friends and stupid things, on.
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I agree with Gnangarra - one tasteless work, which has been
questioned by Wikipedians/medians around the world, is not worth the
risk of losing major donors - whether monetary or culturally. <br>
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Sarah<br>
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Am 17.05.2011 10:22, schrieb Gnangarra:
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cite="mid:BANLkTimaHUuK34DBerViyBvUW0jSQz=8Hw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Is this picture worth more than 137,000 news images,
<br>
Is this picture worth the loss of xontributions from GLAM
organisations<br>
Is this picture worth the cost of denying other contributors the
opportunity to participate.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 May 2011 16:16, Tobias Oelgarte <span
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wrote:<br>
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padding-left: 1ex;"> Am 17.05.2011 02:34, schrieb Neil
Kandalgaonkar:<br>
<div class="im">> On 5/16/11 8:21 PM, Cary Bass wrote:<br>
>> We need an active group of contributors who
represent at the very least<br>
>> some cross-section of not only Commons
contributors but of interested<br>
>> re-users of Commons content to actively monitor
and maintain the POTD.<br>
>> This is not the first time that something
inappropriate for Main Page<br>
>> content has appeared and I doubt it will be the
last.<br>
> That is definitely a practical solution. POTD are
scheduled long in<br>
> advance, so that could solve the problems here pretty
quickly. The image<br>
> in question is, IMO, unambiguously inappropriate for
Commons, and this<br>
> shouldn't have been a difficult debate.<br>
><br>
> On the other hand it feels a bit wrong to me. In that
case we're asking<br>
> groups that are relatively underrepresented in Wiki
culture to take on<br>
> the role of policing. I feel like they ought to have
some rights to a<br>
> welcoming environment as a baseline. That said, in a
wiki context, it<br>
> seems to be impossible to achieve such baseline
freedoms, as long as the<br>
> offenders have large amounts of free time.<br>
><br>
> So some people are going to have to make the
sacrifices to change the<br>
> culture.<br>
><br>
> Another worry: if there's a "quality control board",
officially or<br>
> unofficially, they can start to take that role too
seriously or become<br>
> captured by various radical factions. But I guess we
have to take that<br>
> chance.<br>
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Another board for decisions? Just leave the communities
alone. They can<br>
handle it very well on their own. Any board i know failed in
so many<br>
points. An good example from the German Wikipedia is the<br>
"Schiedsgericht". This is the last call if some users can't
be stopped<br>
from offending each other. But this board isn't trusted at
all and<br>
constantly breaks down. Just because it is seen as needless.<br>
<br>
What im seeing here is the construction of an government
which isn't<br>
even democratic, getting very close to a dictatorship. Or as
we said in<br>
the GDR: One party, elected by itself.<br>
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Tobias<br>
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