<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt">Who ho ho <br><br>127 mails about the POTD :p Could you do this discussion on commons unstead of pollute the mails boxes ?<br><div> <br>I like this list when it subject is about new features or nice markus' tools... But I don't really like when it talk about never-end debates...<br><br>On a tous tété un jour, il n'y a pas de quoi en faire un fromage.<br>Everybody had suckle once a day, there is no way to make a cheese about. <br><br><br></div><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Fl<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">orian Farge</span> aka Otourly</span><br style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" size="2">Sur les</font><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" size="2"><a
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Otourly"> projets wikimédiens</a> et l'<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wikimedia.fr/index.php/Accueil">Association française</a>,</font><span style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;"><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" size="2"> sur <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.oxyradio.net/membre-436.html">OxyRadio</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Otourly">OSM</a>, et sur <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.movim.eu/">MOVIM</a><br>Socio di <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/Pagina_principale">Wikimedia Italia</a><br></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;"></span><div><br></div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div
style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De :</span></b> Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Lun 16 mai 2011, 22h 39min 20s<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons<br></font><br>On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Chris McKenna <<a ymailto="mailto:cmckenna@sucs.org" href="mailto:cmckenna@sucs.org">cmckenna@sucs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I don't know where you get the impression that anyone here is promoting<br>> any sort of lackadaiscial attitude?<br>> As far as I read the arguments we have two groups of people, those who<br>> want to censor images that they do not
like or that they think other<br>> people will not like; and those that want to actively stand up for the<br>> rights to an uncensored collection of free media.<br>><br>> Commons is not censored, if you want a collection of free media that does<br>> not offend you or someone else then you are in the wrong place.<br>><br>> ----<br>> Chris McKenna<br>><br>> <a ymailto="mailto:cmckenna@sucs.org" href="mailto:cmckenna@sucs.org">cmckenna@sucs.org</a><br><span>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sucs.org/%7Ecmckenna">www.sucs.org/~cmckenna</a></span><br><br><br>Someone reading this conversation might almost think that "uncensored<br>images" is the defining core value of Commons. If that's actually the<br>case, some rebranding is necessary. I imagine you could certainly<br>attract an audience with a site advertised as being uncensored, but I<br>was always under the impression that Commons and Wikimedia were out<br>for a
broader, more fully clothed audience.<br><br>What's funny is that you actually think you are arguing against<br>attempts at censorship; what this demonstrates more than anything else<br>is that you have deeply misunderstood censorship and what it means.<br>Unfortunately, you are obviously not nearly open minded enough to<br>learn from any explanation.<br><br>I will try to make one point: You are not in any sense the proprietor,<br>gatekeeper, authority or representative of Commons the project or its<br>community. You have no right to tell people "If you don't like it, get<br>out" as you have done several times. They are as free to express their<br>opinion as you are, and many (as you've no doubt noticed) disagree<br>with you. So why not take a break from telling people to go away?<br><br>Nathan<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Commons-l mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org"
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