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Do it in your freetime and not at work?<br>
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Am 16.05.2011 16:43, schrieb Gnangarra:
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type="cite">Tobias<br>
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Please explain how does one participate when their employment
contract specifically states that viewing of sexually explicit
material over the internet is a dismissable offense. <br>
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The issue isnt hosting the image its about where its displayed.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 16 May 2011 22:32, Tobias Oelgarte <span
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Just logged in, so please bear with the possible wrong entry
place.<br>
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I strongly disagree with the removal. Not because that it is
an image<br>
that i created. Because this is some kind of censorship, that
goes<br>
strictly against the aims of the project itself. Some topics
are fine<br>
and anybody can laugh about them, for some topics nobody cares
and some<br>
topics causing confusion, hate and are a general nuisance.
The later<br>
mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge.<br>
<br>
But which kind of world will we describe? The world how it is
- the<br>
truth? Or do we want to select some mild topics and enjoy
little bunnies<br>
on a field with dozens of flowers, while one house away bombs
fall and<br>
the doughters of the family begging for money? Isn't it a bit
ridiculous<br>
to select topics and to show only the bright sides?<br>
<br>
Im just wondering why illustrations of war machines are ok,
while<br>
anything that is related to sexual nature is considerd as
evil. Some<br>
saying that they couldn't tell there children what such images
are<br>
about. But what about a picture of a gun? Can you explain to
your<br>
children, why people kill each other? You should and could at
least try<br>
to explain. The earilier the better. Kids have an open mind,
that i miss<br>
so much in this project.<br>
<br>
Reading the words of Sarah Stierch, someone could assume that
a picture<br>
of a naked male is fine. Do we get more female contributers by
treating<br>
them as some special, out of the oridinary? At the last
meetings in<br>
Germany i met several women, most complaining about this
rather "useless<br>
campaing", that they even found "discriminating".<br>
<br>
Back to the topic itself. Did you even know, that half of the
mangaka<br>
are females? Works like "Kodomo no Jikan" are written by
female authors.<br>
Sexuality is a primary topic. No one could life without it.
Depictions<br>
of sexuallity are known for thousands of years. And that is
the point<br>
where i start wondering. While old works are seen as something
relevant,<br>
new works aren't. Why not? They are from our time. In the time
we life.<br>
<br>
Sorry for my English. But English isn't my main language.<br>
<br>
Tobias Oelgarte<br>
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Am 16.05.2011 16:24, schrieb Chris McKenna:<br>
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<div class="h5">> On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ryan Kaldari
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The image is also not artistically, historically,
or culturally significant,<br>
>> unlike all the other examples you cited.<br>
> Please cite your sources for the (lack of) artistic,
historic, or cultural<br>
> significance for this image and all the other
examples cited.<br>
><br>
>> The only reason it's featured is<br>
>> because it's sexually arousing to anime fanboys
who happen to dominate the<br>
>> culture of Wikimedia Commons.<br>
> Citation needed for a /very/ offensive remark.<br>
><br>
>> I don't need to crawl into a semantic<br>
>> rabbit-hole to defend this observation.<br>
> Why? Please be objective, preferably include
references to reliable<br>
> sources.<br>
><br>
>> I think its obvious to any<br>
>> reasonable person. If the image would be
embarrassing to pull up in front of<br>
>> a classful of students, it shouldn't be on the
Commons Main Page.<br>
> Please define "reasonable person" in an objective,
culturally neutral way.<br>
> Please list an objective set of culturally neutral
criteria that would<br>
> allow any image to be safely displayed to any given
group of people in a<br>
> way that does not introduce censorship or cultural
bias.<br>
><br>
> "Not censored" means just that. If you aren't happy
that some images that<br>
> offend you (or you find offensive on others' behalf)
might be displayed<br>
> then you should not use Wikimedia Commons.<br>
><br>
> Chris<br>
><br>
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