Hoi,<br>When you leave it up to Commons to decide its role, you forget the need it provides. As it is not an option to ditch Commons when it does not want to fulfill its role, it is not an option to leave it only to Commons.<br>
Thanks,<br> GerardM<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/16 Geoffrey Plourde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:geo.plrd@yahoo.com">geo.plrd@yahoo.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div>If commons is not a service project, what is it? Unlike other projects which have a measurable output, Commons' sole function appears to be as a repository of free images. It is therefore very much a service project as it serves other projects through storage of images. <br>
<br>I think the discussion here is especially important as this is the Wikimedia Commons discussion list. That being said, I feel that there should be an RfC/Poll on Commons about how it should change. <br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Huib Laurens <<a href="mailto:Abigor@forgotten-beauty.com" target="_blank">Abigor@forgotten-beauty.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <<a href="mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 15, 2009 10:34:38 AM<div class="im">
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Hello,<br><br>I don't think we need to see Commons as a Service project, All Wikimedia <br>projects need the other projects.<br>Wikimedia is build on all the projects and saying that a project is only <br>a service project can make the people feel bad that are working on that <br>
project.<br>I think the view that Rama uses can be seen in a lot of ways, and <br>regarding the point of view that you uses you can make all projects into <br>a service project.<br><br>We have now a discussion in a "private" place about how people have to <br>
change Commons, isn't it a better idea to make this a discussion on <br>Commons or on Meta (if you want a neutral place). Commons has a great <br>communety with people that are spending all there time on Commons, and <br>
whe have photographers that can easely make money with there pictures <br>but chooses to release it under a free license.. I rather see a onwiki <br>discussion so we can hear there say's
also..<br><br>Just my view here but I cant send the email without a notice about this..<br><br>I'm seeing a discussions or even multible discussions about how Commons <br>needs to change to be a better service project. But when Commons needs <br>
to change, will we change all other projects also? There are still <br>images getting deleted because we couldn't get the source information or <br>other important information because the file was already deleted local, <br>
there is a bug to give Commons adminstrators view permission for deleted <br>files globally, there has been a vote on Meta and still it isn't <br>activated (more than a year waiting time). Things like that will make <br>
Commons also a better service project.. Or isn't that important enough?<br><br>Huib<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Commons-l mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
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