I don't think trying to gather and follow up the ideas in this thread at e new project page is "creating a new institution". I'm with Michael here, trying to sort this out on-wiki could indeed help "change the people and the way they work". <br>
<br>Posting at Commons:Village Pump could help bring up more ideas, brainstorm and attreact interrest - but VP is not a very suitable place to actually develop sustainable solutions. Neither is no:Tinget or sv:bybrunnen.<br>
<br>Finn Rindahl<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/12/12 Lars Aronsson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lars@aronsson.se">lars@aronsson.se</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">Michael Maggs wrote:<br>
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> (1) That the ideas in this thread be captured, and copied to Commons<br>
> under a new project page called (eg) Commons: Outreach.<br>
<br>
</div>In my country (Sweden) there was a heated discussion in the 1960s<br>
that universities had become too specialized. Literature<br>
professors didn't speak to professors in chemical engineering.<br>
There was a rough concensus that more interdisciplinary studies<br>
were needed. So, in 1970 when a new university was founded, what<br>
did they do? They founded a department of interdisciplinary<br>
studies. The new department attracted some professors of<br>
interdisciplinary science, which are now about to retire. But the<br>
literature professors and the professors of chemical engineering<br>
still don't talk to each other.<br>
<br>
What can we learn from this? We must change the people and the<br>
way they work, not create new institutions.<br>
<br>
Wikimedia Commons already has a village pump, and it's not overly<br>
full with discussions. Today I (user:LA2) brought up some strange<br>
upload patterns that I observed in five new users. At first I<br>
thought they were sock puppets for a single, large scale copyvio.<br>
But it is more likely they are students in a science project.<br>
The problem is that we have no way to communicate with them or<br>
their teacher. They have all received the standard welcome<br>
template on their user talk page, but nobody seems to bother.<br>
Try to find the people behind these user names and ask them what's<br>
going on. That would be practical outreach. No new page is needed.<br>
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Lars Aronsson (<a href="mailto:lars@aronsson.se">lars@aronsson.se</a>)<br>
Aronsson Datateknik - <a href="http://aronsson.se" target="_blank">http://aronsson.se</a><br>
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