Dear Yann,<br><br>I understand your incomprehension but perhaps the photograph is dead less than 75 years ago (french limit for copyright holder) so by precaution the file must be deleted. But for that he will have aproximatively the same age as M Fournier (28 years in 1904)<br>
<br>M Fournier on the picture is dead in 1914 more than 75 years. I presume that in 6 years will could import this picture without problem because both photograph and M Fournier will be dead more than the 75 years ago...<br>
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:01:39 +0200<br>
From: Yann Forget <<a href="mailto:yann@forget-me.net">yann@forget-me.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Commons-l] 100 years old images<br>
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Hello,<br>
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Recently a photo of Alain-Fournier from 1904 was deleted because "no<br>
proof of PD" [1]. I don't understand the rationale being this decision.<br>
AFAIK, we have accepted such images upto now, why do we refuse them now?<br>
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I think we need to get this clear once and for all.<br>
Seeing what was the life expectancy 100 years ago (about 50-55 years in<br>
USA / Europe [2] [3]), a limit of 100 years seems reasonable to me. The<br>
figures I found are actually lower than I expected (60 years).<br>
While we accept a lot of content which is much less safe than this, it<br>
seems unreasonable to me to refuse this kind of images. It is in the<br>
public domain in USA anyway.<br>
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Rocket000 said [4] "I think it's very safe to assume it's PD or can be<br>
treated like it is, but that's different than allowing it on Commons."<br>
That's exactly the point: if it is very safe to assume it's PD, why<br>
should we refuse them? Why setting different standards? This goes<br>
against our mission.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Yann<br>
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[1]<br>
<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Alain_fournier.jpg" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Alain_fournier.jpg</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html" target="_blank">http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/55/6/1196S.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/55/6/1196S.pdf</a><br>
[4]<br>
<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#100_years_old_images" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#100_years_old_images</a><br>
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