Finally someone thinks about user friendly messages =)<br>I've noticed that there are many people who doesn't use the babel box, and I was trying to figure out their native language (or something close to that) according to what they wrote in the images. I also used the language template in all the versions of {{welcome}}, so when I see that, I'm usually add the welcome template in that language. The problem is that I'm using Google translator, so it's a bit limited.
<br>I think that the<span style="font-weight: bold;"> {{guessed language|<language code>}} </span> template would be quite fine for a start, since the user has to learn how to do more than uploading images (like - how to EDIT the text...)
<br>I think that users who know how to change the preferences, do know how to do other things, so it wouldn't do much to use a script who reads that info - after all, this is more difficult than placing a babel box, not to mention that some users - like me, prefer the English interface.
<br><br>What I suggest, is that in the "Log in / create an account" section would be a drop down menu for "native language" or something like that (maybe with the help of uselang) - so after the user creates an account, a script would create a babel box in the user's page (something like {{user $1}} ) or he would get a welcome message in the user talk page ( {{subst:welcome/$1}} ) - or maybe both?
<br>That way the user would get a welcome message that could guide him in the Commons, and it would be easier to contact with him.<br><br>Yuval<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Alexandre NOUVEL</b> <<a href="mailto:alexandre.nouvel@alnoprods.net">alexandre.nouvel@alnoprods.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi list,<br><br>I've seen that some users run bots that add some message templates to<br>user talk pages, generally in order to warn them about missing tags and<br>other similar problems.<br><br>The problem is that bots are not able to guess the preferred user
<br>language :)<br><br>As for now, here are some clues about the user preferred language:<br>* he has a Babel box on his user page or on his talk page => the highest<br>skill could do it<br>* he has a Welcome template or another message template that is not in
<br>English => get the lang code from the template translation subpage, but<br>actually this is quite difficult because templates are generally subst'd<br>and no link remains to the translation page...<br><br>Then, which tools could we set up to know in an easier way the user
<br>preferred language?<br><br>I'd say:<br>* other users check the user contributions and guess his preferred<br>language, then add some {{guessed language|<language code>}} template to<br>the user talk page. This very template would provide information about
<br>how to add a Babel box. This is not much better than adding a Welcome<br>template, so I don't think it to be a good solution.<br>* some toolserver asking the database and returning as raw text the<br>preferred language code that the user has set up in his preferences.
<br>This seems to me the best way to handle automatically this information,<br>but shall assume that the user has set up this information. I think it's<br>okay because when we need to contact this user, that's because he
<br>interacted on the project and has a high probability of having set up<br>his preferences...<br><br>Any thoughts? Any volunteers to code such a simple tool? :)<br><br>Best regards from France,<br>--<br><a href="mailto:Alexandre.NOUVEL@alnoprods.net">
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