I'm on a similar problem at the Portuguese Wikisource due to the [[:m:American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term]] (see on [1]).<br><br>I've proposed in a private e-mail to Anthere (not yet replied, I think that she is busy in others subjects) to create a set of wikis <lang>.non-
<a href="http://us.wikisource.org">us.wikisource.org</a> hosted outside of the United States ({{derivative}} from the Debian non-us software repository [2]) to host works PD-old worldwide but copyrighted in the USA. Can a non-us Commons media repository help on preventing to delete thousands of images?
<br><br>foundation-l have a discussion started today based on the same problem: [3]<br><br>[1] <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#PD-old_non-us..._I.27m_confused">http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#PD-old_non-us..._I.27m_confused
</a><br><br>[2] <a href="http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-non-US">http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-non-US</a><br><br>[3] <a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029741.html">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029741.html
</a><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/27/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Petr Kadlec</b> <<a href="mailto:petr.kadlec@gmail.com">petr.kadlec@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi!<br><br>When "investigating" the copyright status of some old images, I<br>realized that our {{PD-old}} template is quite a bit misleading.<br><br>IIANM (note: IANAL), works published after 1923 by authors who died
<br>between 1926 and 1936 (i.e. dead more than 70 years) are _not_ public<br>domain in US (and will not be until at least 2019 [1]), although they<br>are PD in EU states (among others). And as the US law is quite<br>relevant to the WMF servers, we must consider those works to be
<br>copyrighted.<br><br>The copyright status of an old work is therefore determined not only<br>by the death date of its author, but also by its publishing date and<br>our templates (and procedures) should acknowledge that. (See also
<br>[[commons:Commons talk:Licensing/Which copyright law applies?]])<br><br>Unfortunately, I cannot imagine we would be able to explain the<br>difficult rules on the upload form so that anyone would understand<br>them. The need for a wizard-style upload is evident once again…
<br><br>P. S. I must say I am afraid that this fact about US copyright law is<br>ignored (not known) on more projects which consider works by authors<br>who died before 1936 as PD regardless of the publishing date.<br><br>
-- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]]<br><br>[1] See e.g. [[en:Wikipedia:Non-US copyrights]]<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Commons-l mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org">
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