<div dir="ltr"><div>as expected: first ignoring the rules, then slashing people with other opinions. typical.<br><br></div><div>If somebody starts arguing the "human rights" are on the side of their own brand marketing it's time to realizes that dialogue is senseless.<br>
<br></div><div>Wikipedia Zero is NOT standing for free access to knowledge - it stands for free access to Wikimedia products. Wikipedia Zero isn't about "freeing the knowledge of the world to the people of the world", it is about "freeing the use of Wikipedia to the people of the world". Nice idea, but not possible if you give any thoughts to net neutrality. <br>
Same as Facebook Zero is not about "bringing the internet to the people of the world" but bringing "Facebook to the people of the world." It's about brand dominion, not about enlightenment and human rights.<br>
<br></div><div>And Wikipedia Zero is a marketing tool for access providers. Human right? Free access to information? Maybe that's what some people dream this is about, but the reality is different.<br><br></div><div>over and out<br>
<br></div><div>Jens<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-10 19:00 GMT+02:00 Anirudh S. Bhati <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anirudhsbh@gmail.com" target="_blank">anirudhsbh@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jens Best <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jens.best@wikimedia.de" target="_blank">jens.best@wikimedia.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>According to the press Patricio Lorente, member of the Foundation's board, said: <br><br>"Access to information is a basic human right. If net neutrality is hurting a human right, we have to rethink net neutrality."<br>
<br></div><div>Haven't heard such a single-sided, unbalanced and self-righteous statment for a while. <br></div><div><br>So, people standing for net neutrality are now became enemies of basic human rights in the understanding of the foundation. - Well, if this low level of discussion is reached, I guess it doesn't make sense to discuss the subject with the foundation at all. </div>
</blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Last I checked, "self-righteous" could be used to describe the advocacy of a one-size-fits-all solution implemented in an absolutist fashion without regard to the rights and interests of those who would be most affected by it, i.e. the owners of private property.<br>
<br>You like "net neutrality"? Go buy your Internet access from a company that promises to adhere to those principles. Or better yet, raise some money and start your own infra and ISP business. Don't force others to play by your rules - that would be self-righteous.<br>
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