<div dir="ltr">Probably a little bit of both. <div><br></div><div>On the more-or-less innocent side, some academic institutions are genuinely worried about some "new" aspects of information reuse that this partially addresses, like data mining/data extraction. I think this is just a phase and they'll grow out of it, but we (free/open community) have not yet done a great job addressing why freedom to do data mining is important.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On the "pull the wool" side, this is damaging to interoperability and republishing - both of which are important to us and very scary to the publishing industry. So the publishers (and this is definitely an initiative from publishers) have a lot of incentive to constantly try to redefine "open access" until they can break it with those terms.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The letter we've been asked to join focuses primarily on the interoperability argument, which I think is appropriate for them; the blog post I'm thinking about would be more focused on intellectual freedom.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Luis</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Jon Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk" target="_blank">jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Would really be worth calling them out on this. Perhaps they are just Innocent or perhaps trying to pull the wool?<br>
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Hi, all-<br>
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An academic publishing group called STM (The International Association of<br>
Scientific, Technical & Medical Publishers) has published some "open"<br>
licenses that, well, aren't really open. In my reading, they fail both the<br>
OKFN's open definition and <a href="http://freedomdefined.org" target="_blank">freedomdefined.org</a>'s definition, so would not be<br>
acceptable on Commons or other WMF projects.<br>
<br>
Andrés Guadamuz has written about this more here:<br>
<a href="http://www.technollama.co.uk/academic-publishers-draft-and-release-their-own-open-access-licences#" target="_blank">http://www.technollama.co.uk/academic-publishers-draft-and-release-their-own-open-access-licences#</a><br>
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I'm considering drafting a WMF blog post on this issue, because of the<br>
potential for confusion and the limitations on reuse[1]. I've also been<br>
made aware of a potential letter on the subject from a variety of related<br>
organizations that we'll consider signing on to.<br>
<br>
This is not advocacy per se, since it is a private group and not a<br>
government, but I wanted to give you all a heads up in case you were asked<br>
about it by publishers or other people in the open access movement.<br>
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Have a great weekend-<br>
Luis<br>
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[1] We have piles of materials from legitimately open-licensed journals,<br>
like PLOS:<br>
<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_from_PLOS_journals" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_from_PLOS_journals</a><br>
(seriously,<br>
I spent minutes clicking around in there and never got past the letter A,<br>
alphabetically)<br>
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