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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Great news, Dimi! Thank you for sharing.<br><br>Regards,<br><br><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">John</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><b>John Andersson</b></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3">
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Please consider </font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"><a href="https://donera.wikimedia.se/node/6" target="_blank">becoming a member</a></font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"> of Wikimedia Sverige!</font><font style="font-size:12pt;" face="Arial" size="3"> We need your support.<br></font><br><br><div>> From: advocacy_advisors-request@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Subject: Advocacy_Advisors Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3<br>> To: advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:02:27 +0000<br>> <br>> Send Advocacy_Advisors mailing list submissions to<br>> advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> advocacy_advisors-request@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> advocacy_advisors-owner@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Advocacy_Advisors digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: Hungarian Constitutional Court holds content providers<br>> responsible for unmoderated comments (Tisza Gergõ)<br>> 2. Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP<br>> (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov)<br>> 3. Re: Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP (Stevie Benton)<br>> 4. Re: Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP<br>> (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:32:57 -0700<br>> From: Tisza Gergõ <gtisza@gmail.com><br>> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia<br>> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Hungarian Constitutional Court holds<br>> content providers responsible for unmoderated comments<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CACiqbVwkfU1h2sZ2BNFG8UcdQrvR4sCPeYhGZVp78dXrM5xPTw@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <<br>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Thanks, Tisza, for the update! So I guess this cements it then? Any chance<br>> > anybody can change the rule in Hungary from now on?<br>> ><br>> <br>> IANAL, but as I understand it the lower-level courts based their decision<br>> on certain laws, and the Constitutional Court was asked to say whether that<br>> is unconstitutional due to freedom of speech, and they said it was not;<br>> they did not say the responsibility of content providers follows directly<br>> from the constitution. So if the laws in question (2001/CVIII e-commerce<br>> act + civil code) are changed, that could affect the situation. (And of<br>> course the constitution could be changed - the current ruling party has<br>> supermajority and does that quite frequently.)<br>> <br>> Given that the current government has so far always changed laws towards<br>> less freedom of speech, not more, I wouldn't hold my breath, though.<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/attachments/20140702/3c2898e3/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:48:18 +0200<br>> From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com><br>> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for WMF LCA<br>> <Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Subject: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and FoP<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAK4vM4R_KXTnWaxuTKBufLuMoKm4dU--bTSWVG3mCi=KM612ww@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech at<br>> a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of the<br>> planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:<br>> <br>> *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium, how<br>> is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to<br>> ordinary citizens?*<br>> <br>> Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG<br>> for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said<br>> anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the<br>> members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to<br>> anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of<br>> both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:<br>> Thank you and great job, everyone!<br>> <br>> Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great<br>> examples and stories to tell.<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Dimi<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/attachments/20140703/6c98f694/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0100<br>> From: Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk><br>> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia<br>> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and<br>> FoP<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CACti2rJcKCfwO7ts8swV07Lza3aOHxqjMJB7D7hVqGykMa93VQ@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> This is excellent! Progress may take time, but it's beginning to feel like<br>> we are getting somewhere.<br>> <br>> I touch on the FoP issue in the upcoming Wikimedia UK annual review booklet<br>> - https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_AR_2014_v4.pdf - in the<br>> section about advocacy. I use Romaine's excellent image of the blacked out<br>> European Parliament.<br>> <br>> Let's keep pushing!<br>> <br>> Stevie<br>> <br>> <br>> On 3 July 2014 11:48, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <<br>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hi all,<br>> ><br>> > Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech<br>> > at a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of<br>> > the planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:<br>> ><br>> > *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium, how<br>> > is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to<br>> > ordinary citizens?*<br>> ><br>> > Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG<br>> > for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said<br>> > anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the<br>> > members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to<br>> > anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of<br>> > both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:<br>> > Thank you and great job, everyone!<br>> ><br>> > Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great<br>> > examples and stories to tell.<br>> ><br>> > Cheers,<br>> > Dimi<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Advocacy_Advisors mailing list<br>> > Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> Stevie Benton<br>> Head of External Relations<br>> Wikimedia UK<br>> +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173<br>> @StevieBenton<br>> <br>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England<br>> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.<br>> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street,<br>> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a<br>> global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the<br>> Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).<br>> <br>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal<br>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/attachments/20140703/4ae80437/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:28:37 +0200<br>> From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com><br>> To: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia<br>> <advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Subject: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] Commissioner on copyright reform and<br>> FoP<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAK4vM4SF-kep5N3-rMqKa8-+zWNY5Wos+arN_DwZD2vN4vAXpg@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> This is absolutely brilliant, Stevie! Romaine's image and the text you<br>> added next to it. Plus the story we have to tell with the EP Secretariat<br>> giving us permission to use it on Wikipedia only to figure out later that<br>> they don't the rights and thus can't allow us to use an image of their own<br>> building.<br>> <br>> Could WMUK or another chapter print this image with the text on a banner?<br>> 180x76cm would be enought. We could use it at events around Brussels to<br>> raise awareness in a very powerful way. I could even imagine an info-booth<br>> inside the Parliament.<br>> <br>> <br>> 2014-07-03 12:56 GMT+02:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>:<br>> <br>> > This is excellent! Progress may take time, but it's beginning to feel like<br>> > we are getting somewhere.<br>> ><br>> > I touch on the FoP issue in the upcoming Wikimedia UK annual review<br>> > booklet - https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_AR_2014_v4.pdf -<br>> > in the section about advocacy. I use Romaine's excellent image of the<br>> > blacked out European Parliament.<br>> ><br>> > Let's keep pushing!<br>> ><br>> > Stevie<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 3 July 2014 11:48, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <<br>> > dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> Hi all,<br>> >><br>> >> Neelie Kores, outgoing Commissioner for the Digital Agenda held a speech<br>> >> at a conference in Amsterdam yesterday where she spoke about the need of<br>> >> the planned copyright reform. [1] Among other things, she said:<br>> >><br>> >> *When you can't sing happy birthday, or post a picture of the Atomium,<br>> >> how is that fair or reasonable, how is that something you can explain to<br>> >> ordinary citizens?*<br>> >><br>> >> Yes, it is an outgoing Commissioner and DG CONNECT is the not the lead DG<br>> >> for copyright, but this is the first time the European Commission said<br>> >> anything about Freedom of Panorama. I know for a fact that it was the<br>> >> members of the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU and their constant talk to<br>> >> anyone about this issue how the Atomium example showed up on the radars of<br>> >> both DG CONNECT and DG MARKT. In this line of thought I just wanted to say:<br>> >> Thank you and great job, everyone!<br>> >><br>> >> Let's make sure we keep FoP on the table. We actually have the great<br>> >> examples and stories to tell.<br>> >><br>> >> Cheers,<br>> >> Dimi<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Advocacy_Advisors mailing list<br>> >> Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors<br>> >><br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> ><br>> > Stevie Benton<br>> > Head of External Relations<br>> > Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173<br>> > @StevieBenton<br>> ><br>> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).<br>> ><br>> > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Advocacy_Advisors mailing list<br>> > Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors<br>> ><br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/attachments/20140703/3322a871/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Advocacy_Advisors mailing list<br>> Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors<br>> <br>> <br>> End of Advocacy_Advisors Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3<br>> ************************************************<br></div> </div></body>
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