<div dir="ltr">Hey everyone,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the initiative! A point that might be taken into account for future initiatives: Instead of talking just about "our" situation (<span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPS;font-size:10pt;font-style:italic">we can't
use</span>), we imho should frame this as a general problem: "Free and open media can't use ..." or <a href="http://s.th">s.th</a>. like that ...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheerio</div><div>Niko</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Nikolas Becker<br><br><div>Chair of the Board/Vorsitzender<br>Wikimedia Deutschland e. V.<br><font size="1"><br>Tempelhofer Ufer 23/24<br>10963 Berlin<br><br><a href="http://www.wikimedia.de" target="_blank">www.wikimedia.de</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-21 9:12 GMT-07:00 Stevie Benton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk" target="_blank">stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hello again,<div><br></div><div>Thanks once more for the useful feedback. The letter has now been sent. The final print version can be seen at <a href="https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Letter_to_MEPs_with_images.pdf" target="_blank">https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Letter_to_MEPs_with_images.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks and regards,</div><div><br>Stevie</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 March 2014 12:56, Stevie Benton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk" target="_blank">stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello again,<div><br></div><div>Just to pick this up once more. <br><br></div><div>Matthias, I take your point about the turnover of MEPs. But the sooner we get this out, the sooner people begin paying attention. If we wait for a perfect time - like some other groups - we will likely get lost in the noise. There's no reason we can't follow-up with newly elected MEPs in the summer. Also, I see what you mean about Big Ben potentially being misinterpreted. It's also not a great example as it would be out of copyright anyway, so am going to use a different image.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Bence - that was a useful spot, thank you. The updated version has the links as footnotes.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to make some changes to the letter today and I'm hoping to get the final version printed and sent by the end of the week.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks and regards,<br><br></div><div>Stevie</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 March 2014 09:28, Stevie Benton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk" target="_blank">stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thank you everyone for your thoughtful comments. These will be taken into consideration for the final version of the letter which is likely to be printed and posted today.<div>
<br></div><div>Thanks and regards,</div>
<div><br>Stevie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 March 2014 09:11, Mathias Schindler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mathias.schindler@wikimedia.de" target="_blank">mathias.schindler@wikimedia.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="tel:2014-03-14%209" value="+36201403149" target="_blank">2014-03-14 9</a>:54 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov<br>
<<a href="mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com" target="_blank">dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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> As to Mathias' comment on the MEPs: Yes, there will be some considerable<br>
> turnover, but at the same time politicians are most likely to pay attention<br>
> to such a thing before election time. Sending it out just to the ones we<br>
> believe might get reelected would be - diplomatically speaking - bad<br>
> diplomacy. Can't we just resend it after the elections to just the newly<br>
> elected MEPs?<br>
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</div>There is already too much bad diplomacy out there, so thanks for Dimis<br>
argument. As you can see from<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2014_(United_Kingdom)#Current_MEPs_by_European_Political_Group" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2014_(United_Kingdom)#Current_MEPs_by_European_Political_Group</a>,<br>
the number of parties who did send MEPs to Brussels was considerable.<br>
It would be possible to send such a letter to the parties before the<br>
election and to the specific elected MEPs afterwards.<br>
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