Luis,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your very thoughtful reply. I am far more interested in preventing our readers from investigation because of their whims of curiosity than in <span></span>frustrating the NSA or alerting the community to surveillance.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Are Foundation employees served as individuals allowed to talk to you about them? If so, are you allowed to talk with your colleagues in the legal department about the letters?</div><div><br></div><div>
Best regards,</div><div>James Salsman</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Sunday, August 4, 2013, Luis Villa wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<br><div class="gmail_extra">On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, James Salsman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jsalsman@gmail.com');" target="_blank">jsalsman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Luis,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Would it be legal to adopt a policy that any individual served with a National Security Letter must immediately request a transfer to a department headed by a different C-level officer?</p>
<p dir="ltr">If so, is the Foundation willing to adopt such a policy?</p></blockquote><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div>Hi, James-<br><br></div><div>It's not clear to me what the purpose of such a policy would be. I can think of two possible goals, neither of which really work.<br>
<br>If the goal is "frustrate the purpose of the NSL by depriving the recipient of the authority to respond to the NSL", then the FBI simply continues to send NSLs to whoever we hire as a replacement, until we have no one left in ops. At that point, they start working their way up the chain and we're left with (1) a crippled organization and (2) eventually a letter to the ED, who is legally compelled to make the thing happen anyway. Or, if the policy is public, they just start with the ED.<br>
<br></div><div>If the goal is "alert the community that NSLs are being sent" (or if that alerting happens accidentally, as a result of public knowledge of the policy, + goal #1) then that's probably a violation of the relevant law, which allows disclosure only to "those to whom such disclosure is necessary to comply with the request or an attorney to obtain legal advice or legal assistance with respect to the request" (18 USC 2709(c)(1), <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709" target="_blank">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709</a>).<br>
</div><br></div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Note that the statute was updated a few years back to make it quite clear that you're allowed to talk to your lawyer about these when you get them, recent disclosed letters appear to refer clearly to that permission, and if our legal department got one, we'd be eager to fight. (That said, it does probably make sense to remind our employers that if they get an NSL, they are clearly entitled to speak to LCA; we'll look into how best to do that.)</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Luis</span><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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