I suppose it works, but it doesn't really solve our problem with the expiring templates. What's to stop the author of a copyright- violating page from regularly going in and making "dummy edits", preventing the page from ever "expiring"? Or how about templates like {{Đang dịch 2}}, where we fully expect that the page will be revised after the tag is added, but we might not want the timestamp to change when that happens? (I might, for example, go in and add a {{Thời gian sống}} tag, but that doesn't mean the translation is any closer to being finished.) We're left with the same problem we began with: whether we use {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} or {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}, we need some way of substituting the timestamp *only* when the template is being included, not when the template is being edited. That's why we have the current {{Đang dịch 2}} / {{Đang dịch 2 (nguồn)}} setup, right? We don't *really* want the last revision date; we want the date of the revision where we tagged the page. This is why Danny B. is suggesting a new "revisiontime" magic word. Tran The Trung wrote: > I have tested it. It works: we got the last revision date of the > page that includes the template.