Svip wrote: It's a chapter wiki so it gets a bit borderline. I hate those "like" buttons, though.

----- Original Message ----- If Wikipedia or any other WMF sites deploy anything remotely related to Facebook, be it Instant Personalization, or even anything slightly less intrusive, then I'm gone, both as a reader and an editor, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be alone in that opinion. Mission creep is alive and well at Facebook. Papa *spank*. Cheers, -- jra

2011/4/19 River Tarnell <r.tarnell(a)ieee.org>rg>: So it's better to find other hosting provider for chapters web site? -- Raul

On 19/04/11 15:32, Raul Kern wrote: A lot of chapters have their own hosting. Part of the reason is so that they can set their own website policies without any interference from the Foundation. It's a reasonable solution. For example, Wikimedia Israel has a Facebook "like" button, and Wikimedia Russia, Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Portugal have Google Analytics, all without JRA quitting. -- Tim Starling

Christophe Henner wrote: It was a reference to <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-April/052912.html>. MZMcBride

On 19.04.2011, 10:24 K. wrote: Then it would violate the free content doctrine, unles you manage to convince FB to release their button images under a free license :P -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])

Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki <at> gmail.com> writes: Actually it would be a plain copyright violation (and quite possibly some sort of trademark violation too); Facebook terms of use do not allow modifying the looks or behavior of the Like button in any way. Also worth noting that chapters participating in the fundraiser and receiving traffic from the fundraiser banners must have a privacy policy compatible with that of the WMF, which probably means no Like buttons (for the duration of the fundraiser, at least). Other than that, though, I don't think arbitrary cultural standards should be imposed on self-hosted chapter homepages. It is their job to decide whether their readers would be happy about some data about their browsing being shared with Facebook, and they can probably do a better job about it than a random group of wikitech-l posters most of whom don't even speak the language. I also do not see why being hosted by WMF would make any difference. Users might have a reasonable expectation to be protected by the WMF privacy policy while they are on a *.wikimedia.org domain, but if the site is hosted under some other domain name, there is no reason to enforce WMF policy.

"Alien" and "Aliens" both won Oscars too. You *should* be concerned about aliens. Cheers, Domas

Careful, I can plan an Inception for you all to believe that privacy policy is bad idea, after I stop hunting dolphins in the cove, of course in my human avatar. Domas

Raul Kern wrote: I think it's better to just not use a "like" button. :-) You can have passive "share" links instead, though. For example: <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Social_bookmarks>. The chapter sites being hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation makes sense, mostly as the Wikimedia Foundation is fairly familiar with how to manage and maintain websites. If it's analytics that you want, that's being worked on (as far as I'm aware): <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/OWA>. MZMcBride

On 19.04.2011 08:34, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: ...even if you do not click it! -- daniel