Mhm. I like the idea of function supersession. Basically, I just don't
think we should call a function deprecated unless it actually is indeed
deprecated, i.e., no longer used anywhere in the core. Theoretically, a
function that is deprecated in the core should not show any warnings
whatsoever when testing without extensions.
If we can somehow denote functions that are *planned to be deprecated*,
that would be a better solution, and then deprecation would actually occur
when all instances of the feature are removed from the core.
*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
| tylerromeo(a)gmail.com
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Derric Atzrott <datzrott(a)alizeepathology.com
I don't
think this is a very good idea at all. The real problem has to do
with
the definition of a deprecated feature. If a
feature has been deprecated,
then
it should no longer be used (at least not in the
core).
Inventing soft deprecation for features that have been superseded but have
yet
to be actually replaced is just a lazy way of
putting off fully
deprecating
something. Yes, there should probably be some sort
of configuration option
to
turn on/off deprecation warnings entirely, and I
think the whole
$wgDeprecationReleaseLimit is a good approach to this, but there shouldn't
be
levels of deprecation. A feature should just be
deprecated or not.
As I stated earlier, I'm pro-multiple levels of deprecation, but if we
don't
go that route then I think that we should treat all deprecation the same.
This:
"Congratulations, you've just made developer warnings and your IDE's
deprecation warnings useless due to the amount of noise. These functions
are
used WIDELY across the core, so deprecation should be as soft as possible.
I
suggest to revert these commits (why merge them so hastily, anyway?!) and
revisit this issue when MW core and popular extensions will be (mostly)
clean."
Should not happen then if a function is deprecated. If we don't want to
display the warnings, then we shouldn't deprecate the function.
That or we need to find an alternative solution to the problem. If it
makes
it any better we could call Soft Deprecation "Function Supersession" or
something similar to show that a function has been superseded even if not
formally deprecated yet.
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
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