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Steve Bennett

18 Aug 2006 18 Aug '06

1:12 p.m.

Could be just me, but occasionally today I'm getting totally blank pages being delivered straight away from en.wikipedia.org. Upon refresh, I usually get the real page. It's probably me, but thought I'd check :) Steve

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Jay R. Ashworth

18 Aug 18 Aug

3:07 p.m.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 03:12:13PM +0200, Steve Bennett wrote:

Could be just me, but occasionally today I'm getting totally blank pages being delivered straight away from en.wikipedia.org. Upon refresh, I usually get the real page. It's probably me, but thought I'd check :)

Not seeing it here (Firefox 1.5.0.6, Win2K, RoadRunner). Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 The Internet: We paved paradise, and put up a snarking lot.

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Steve Bennett

3:20 p.m.

On 8/18/06, Jay R. Ashworth <jra(a)baylink.com> wrote:

Not seeing it here (Firefox 1.5.0.6, Win2K, RoadRunner).

Actually I bet it's "Google Web Accelerator" being stupid. Sorry for the dud report. Steve

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Minh Nguyen

20 Aug 20 Aug

2:14 a.m.

Steve Bennett wrote:

On 8/18/06, Jay R. Ashworth <jra(a)baylink.com> wrote:

Not seeing it here (Firefox 1.5.0.6, Win2K, RoadRunner).

Actually I bet it's "Google Web Accelerator" being stupid. Sorry for the dud report. Steve

Actually, I've been getting these blank pages too, and I'm not using Google Accelerator. Using Firefox on WinXP and MacOSX, ZoomTown (local broadband ISP). I haven't been seeing this with any other website. -- Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/

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Steve Bennett

21 Aug 21 Aug

11:38 a.m.

On 8/20/06, Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> wrote:

Actually, I've been getting these blank pages too, and I'm not using Google Accelerator. Using Firefox on WinXP and MacOSX, ZoomTown (local broadband ISP). I haven't been seeing this with any other website.

Ok, I just got another one. I notice that I'm only getting these at work (Firefox 1.5.0.6), and not at home (Firefox 1.0.something). XP in both cases, various firefox extensions. I have saved the source code of a "blank page" to a text file. Comparing this to the result of the reloaded page is yielding me confusing results - not 100% sure I can trust FireFox's "show page source"? It seems to be either identical to the "correct" output, or minus a few unimportant linefeeds. However, the "view rendered source chart" extension shows just the string "<HTML></html>". I'm tempted to think this is a FireFox anomaly? Some odd race condition where it's rendering the page and *then* retrieving the full source? Steve

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Simetrical

5 p.m.

On 8/21/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I have saved the source code of a "blank page" to a text file. Comparing this to the result of the reloaded page is yielding me confusing results - not 100% sure I can trust FireFox's "show page source"?

Nope. Another thing it does is escape stray &s.

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Steve Bennett

23 Aug 23 Aug

8:24 a.m.

I'm still getting this occasionally, and particularly when going "back" to a previous page. Looking in the "document model inspector" (err, not sure what it's called in english), I see the following elements: #document -HTML --HEAD --BODY ---PRE None of these nodes seem to have any text or attributes associated with them. Hmm. Steve On 8/21/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/20/06, Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> wrote:

Actually, I've been getting these blank pages too, and I'm not using Google Accelerator. Using Firefox on WinXP and MacOSX, ZoomTown (local broadband ISP). I haven't been seeing this with any other website.

Ok, I just got another one. I notice that I'm only getting these at work (Firefox 1.5.0.6), and not at home (Firefox 1.0.something). XP in both cases, various firefox extensions. I have saved the source code of a "blank page" to a text file. Comparing this to the result of the reloaded page is yielding me confusing results - not 100% sure I can trust FireFox's "show page source"? It seems to be either identical to the "correct" output, or minus a few unimportant linefeeds. However, the "view rendered source chart" extension shows just the string "<HTML></html>". I'm tempted to think this is a FireFox anomaly? Some odd race condition where it's rendering the page and *then* retrieving the full source? Steve

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Rob Church

3:26 p.m.

On 23/08/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm still getting this occasionally, and particularly when going "back" to a previous page. Looking in the "document model inspector" (err, not sure what it's called in english), I see the following elements: #document -HTML --HEAD --BODY ---PRE

1. What pages? 2. Which version of Firefox? 3. Which extensions? 4. Other conditions to reproduce? Rob Church

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Steve Bennett

6:56 p.m.

On 8/23/06, Rob Church <robchur(a)gmail.com> wrote:

1. What pages?

All of them. This afternoon it was happening fairly frequently when saving pages, almost at 50%! Though I've had this happen once when clicking on an external link from Wikipedia, which makes me less convinced that it's really a MediaWiki problem. More observation needed.

2. Which version of Firefox?

Only seen it with the version I reported before, 1.5.0.6 I think (whatever I said last time).

3. Which extensions?

Lots. But none recently installed. That's what made me think it was possibly Google Web Accelerator (which I have since disabled, and it's still happening). Probably more likely the trigger was a FireFox self-update?

4. Other conditions to reproduce?

So far only one other person has mentioned ever seeing anything like this, so I don't think we're at that stage yet. I've never seen it happen twice on the one page simply by refreshing - so whatever it is, it's going to be very difficult to determine a sequence of events that reproduces it reliably... For the time being I'll keep observing, but if anyone knows better diagnostic tools, I"d like to hear about them. Steve

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Rob Church

11:44 p.m.

On 23/08/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/23/06, Rob Church <robchur(a)gmail.com> wrote:

1. What pages?

All of them. This afternoon it was happening fairly frequently when saving pages, almost at 50%! Though I've had this happen once when clicking on an external link from Wikipedia, which makes me less convinced that it's really a MediaWiki problem. More observation needed.

Is it confined to Wikimedia-hosted wikis or do other MediaWiki installations mess up? Check places like http://test.leuksman.com and http://nike.idler.fi/betawiki. Rob Church

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