I don't think the mirrors have a right to get free hosting, and it's not hard to save them really if somebody wanted to.

If there's a concensus (and no copyright problem) to provide a big tar with all images for more convenience, then it's just a matter of adding it at download.wikimedia.org.

right click -> save image as...

I don't think the mirrors have a right to get free hosting, and it's not hard to save them really if somebody wanted to. If there's a concensus (and no copyright problem) to provide a big tar with all images for more convenience, then it's just a matter of adding it at download.wikimedia.org.

Gabriel Wicke <groups@...> writes: Mr. Wicke, I speak only for WorldHistory.com in making the following comments and posing the following questions, but I suspect our situation is common to most or all of the sites you have labeled "bandwidth thieves." Comments: First, please note that WorldHistory.com would like to continue mirroring wikipedia content, but that content has considerably less appeal without the images. Second, please note that we linked directly to images at wikipedia's site not in an effort to steal bandwidth, but out of respect for your bandwidth. It seemed -- and to me still seems, I must confess -- a very respectful alternative to trying to spider all the images. After considerable exploration, we were able to find no available alternative at Wikipedia for obtaining images, and no clearly defined contact for making inquiries. Questions: PhatNav.com apparently has its own copy of all the images. By what mechanism might such a copy be obtained and regularly updated by others? de.freepedia.org links to wikipedia images in the same way WorldHistory.com does. Have they made some special arrangement to avoid being blocked? If so, what arrangements might the rest of us make? Whom should one contact to discuss such arrangements? Is there a downloadable archive of images in the immediate future? Thank you for your consideration. If you would prefer to discuss any of this privately, please e-mail me at DavidRodeback(a)att.net, and I will be happy to discuss this by e-mail or to telephone you. David Rodeback Technical Officer WorldHistory.com _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

>>>> "JW" == Jimmy Wales &lt;jwales(a)bomis.com&gt; writes:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:21:08 -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote: Worldhistory is not blocked anymore. In my personal opinion spidering the images and hosting them locally isn't too much to ask for if the sites are commercial. It saves a lot of bandwith as they are only downloaded once, and it's really not hard to do with wget or similar. If this is done in off-peak hours, even better. Previous discussions on this that i found via google: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikilegal-l/2004-January/000220.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copies_of_Wikipedia_content_(low_deg… If the concensus is against blocking i'll switch it off of course. Cheers -- Gabriel Wicke _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Download and install the texts. Spider your installation and extract images references. Convert the filenames to those matching the pictures at the WP site. Download the files of this list using 'wget'. Or something like that could work.

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:31:05 +0000, David Rodeback wrote: >> Download and install the texts. Spider your installation and extract >> images references. Convert the filenames to those matching the

>> at the WP site. Download the files of this list using 'wget'. >> >> Or something like that could work. >> > > Since our current process includes all these steps except the last, at

> point we link to the file, not get it, this is easily done. > > Am I to gather that a reasonably well-behaved spider is preferred to

> back to Wikipedia's site as we have been doing? > > Can someone define for me what would be the off-peak hours in which such

See http://wikimedia.org/stats/live/org.wikimedia.all.squid.requests-hits.html > Finally, is there a place at Wikipedia (I know of several elsewhere) for > registering such spiders with descriptions and contact information, in

> someone observes the spider working and wonders, or in case there is

Set the user agent to something descriptive, like 'worldhistory'. Be sure not to include typical spider UA strings. And throttle the requests, wget offers a rate setting for that. -- Gabriel Wicke