VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

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David Gerard

5 May 2014 5 May '14

6:05 p.m.

On 5 May 2014 22:59, Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Mozilla has a new Wiki Working Group[0] "to develop and drive a roadmap of improvements to http://wiki.mozilla.org"quot;. They're currently on MediaWiki 1.19, and I predict they will want to get onto 1.23 once that is released (since it's going to be the long-term support release[1][2]), and that they're going to want VisualEditor and Flow as soon as possible. However, they have a custom theme to port over.

Instant thread derail! So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install? * VE is big and complicated. I'm not clear on what it needs. Parsoid as a daemon or something? * Are our esteemed packagers at Debian and Fedora in the loop? I ask out of interest for my intranet stuff, where I would *love* a VE to wave at users who basically can't work computers and are presently just doing stuff as Google Docs. - d.

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James Forrester

5 May 5 May

6:08 p.m.

New subject: VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install?

I do not believe so, no.

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* VE is big and complicated. I'm not clear on what it needs. Parsoid as a daemon or something?

VE master needs: - MW 1.23 - Parsoid running as a nodejs daemon VE users will be happier if you also have the TemplateData extension installed, but it's not required.

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* Are our esteemed packagers at Debian and Fedora in the loop?

I have no idea (which probably means "no"). J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

David Gerard

6:11 p.m.

New subject: VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install?

I do not believe so, no.

If someone could do that, I hereby promise to beta-test their instructions! (Personally, I think VE is pretty much ready for all users except English Wikipedia.) - d.

James Forrester

6:25 p.m.

New subject: VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On 5 May 2014 15:11, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install?

I do not believe so, no.

If someone could do that, I hereby promise to beta-test their instructions!

To clarify, the existing instructions<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Basic… should work just fine, but we've not tested them. If someone says these work for them, I'm happy to upgrade my reply to "yes". :-) J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

Gerard Meijssen

6 May 6 May

1:52 a.m.

New subject: VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

Hoi, This does pique my interest, what makes the en.wp so special ? Thanks, GerardM On 6 May 2014 00:11, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install?

I do not believe so, no.

If someone could do that, I hereby promise to beta-test their instructions! (Personally, I think VE is pretty much ready for all users except English Wikipedia.) - d. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Martijn Hoekstra

2:50 a.m.

New subject: VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On May 6, 2014 12:12 AM, "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install?

I do not believe so, no.

If someone could do that, I hereby promise to beta-test their

instructions!

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(Personally, I think VE is pretty much ready for all users except English Wikipedia.) - d.

You would be wrong. There are still many scripts unsupported, that result in a horribly broken VE experience. That said, making it dead easy to install everything for a Wikimedia with VE seems like a reasonable priority at this point. -Martijn

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