The idea is that third parties can publish texts, such as theis statutes, via a open or public wiki, and readers can be sure to read, download, sign, and mail the originals. Another use would be to have pledges and petitions signed by many people. Etc. It is not about WMF-run Wikis. Purodha On 13.09.2015 18:09, Greg Grossmeier wrote:

2015-09-13 18:47 GMT+02:00 Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>: Gotta draw another version with "try using 'password1' as password" IMHO a more legally binding solution would be attaching a signed plaintext containing page wikicode. This was identity check could be done also offline, without exclusively relying on site's infrastructure. Vito

You will run into problems with transclusions http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/xmlsig#w3c_all On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 2015-09-14 13:44, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: Hi. UploadWizard is maintained by a three-person team, and it's only one of many responsibilities every of us has. Personally I find it perfectly usable. now. Especially during WLM we have a lot of error reports. I actually spend a bit of time working on it in the last two weeks, fixing a number of issues which would result in not being able to finish the upload if something went wrong. We're even boasting about this in the next Tech News: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2015/39 Can you point to specific issues that are especially problematic for you? So I looked at the last ten, findings below. This page would be much more useful if it was tended to by Commons community a bit more. These are in Spanish, I think? Apologies, but I do not speak Spanish. I can take bug reports in Polish and English. :) These are in German. I do not speak German either. Two of them are linked to Phabricator bugs, which is nice, and both of the bugs are resolved. This just says "I can not up lord." (sic). That is, unfortunately, not a useful bug report. "Upload Wizard is not working.". Not useful :( This describes https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968 , which is one of the problems I fixed last week. This is T106968 again, and also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741 , which I also fixed last week. This is interesting and finally something new. Can you file a but? It would be useful if the file in question was available for download somewhere, so that we could try to reproduce the issue. I'm not sure if any of us in Multimedia have the access necessary to try to find out what happened to the failed upload. -- Bartosz Dziewoński

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 02:40:17PM +0200, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: Purodha, This is the sort of bug report that we, as people who try to maintain Upload Wizard, can do exactly nothing with. What file(s) were you using? How long did you wait between opening the page and uploading the file(s)? What license(s) are you uploading them under? What file format are they? What browser were you using? What OS? Do you get any error messages in the browser console? Does any other process on your system seem slow or halted? These are all basic debugging questions that, frankly, on a technical mailing list I feel I shouldn't need to ask. Please either reply in private or file a Phabricator task describing your issue in detail. -- Mark Holmquist Lead Engineer, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation mtraceur(a)member.fsf.org https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 04:49:49PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: I don't know if there's a "common questions" link anywhere. I could write it. I guess I just did. I honestly don't think that page is very useful, it gets a lot of noise and not much signal, which is why I don't usually look at it. We could change the config to point at Phabricator, maybe? It usually does, if only to get meaningful error messages and line numbers for a bug report. -- Mark Holmquist Lead Engineer, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation mtraceur(a)member.fsf.org https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist

On 15 September 2015 at 08:26, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: ​Follow-up: In chatting with Steinsplitter on IRC, we agreed to replace the link with a Phabricator one for the time being: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666 Hopefully this will help ease things! Yours,​ -- James D. Forrester Lead Product Manager, Editing Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester