Hi, I created a yahoo group for people interested in continuing the discussion on "Community vs. centralized development" as well as up to date wiki backups.  Please join if you want to help to keep the Wikimedia foundation part of the community or just like chatting about it!  Here is the group link: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wikishare/ "In this group topics are discussed related to the Wikimedia Foundation's relationship to the community of volunteer developers and users, as well as distribution of wiki backups and image backups.  Two main goals of the group are to ensure that Wikimedia foundation development is community centered and also to have up to date full history Wikimedia Foundation wiki's and wiki images freely available for download." cheers, Jamie