On 20/10/06, Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Given the competence of the average admin on enwiki, I
think this is a
phenomenally bad idea. Giving select admins the authority to impose
all-project blocks for IP addresses or even named users is probably
something that is needed, but this is a very powerful privilege and
should be extended on a very limited basis with input from multiple
projects. Passing a beauty contest on enwiki should not give one the
power to block people on commons, dewikt, or frwikisource.
Thinking about it it probably is a bad idea although there are still other
options to explore: pan-Wikimedia blockers drawn from the Wikimedia admin
population based on history and whatnot.
I would support the Foundation providing an open proxy listing service
to which individual projects could subscribe to or not
depending on
their particular circumstances. Most projects would subscribe,
perhaps with certain exclusions; some, like zhwiki, would probably not
subscribe. It would be a project-by-project decision whether or not
to subscribe. A DNSBL is the obvious way to do this. Selecting
people to maintain this list should be done on a multiproject basis,
similar to how stewards or meta admins are elected, or alternatively
selected directly by the Foundation.
I think there should also be better communication between projects about
vandals. At the moment there is not much warning that a particular
IP/username has raised problems on other projects. With single login it will
be easier to vandalise from project-to-project. Some kind of meta
communication would help tackle these kinds of vandals far more quickly and
effectively.
On 21/10/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Would a "two strikes and you're out"
policy (get blocked on two of the
sites, get blocked on them all) help?
Two strikes would probably be too few. Admins on one project (say
en.wikipedia) are often admins on another (commons). Problem admins having a
issues with a user they are more likely to track them down on the other
project and block them (particularly if they know that doing so will block
the user across Wikimedia). Taking into account who has blocked the user on
each project would help.
On 21/10/06, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Surely this applies to all Wikimedia projects equally, not just the
Chinese Wikipedia.
Of course people should be able to edit from open proxies for this reason
(ie. just block anon editing).
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