Sumana Harihareswara, 24/07/2012 22:47:
> Ohloh would sure be a nice resource - I'm not sure how to get it fixed
> exactly, but please feel free to poke around, tell Ohloh where our new
> repository is, and try to get it fixed. Sorry, it's a low priority for
> me right now, but you have my authorization to try to get it fixed.
The new repo for core was already there, but extensions were missing;
I've now added them. https://www.ohloh.net/p/mediawiki
(Some seem to partially disagree, by the way.)
> By the way, the WMF analytics team is working on some new analysis tools
> for our use of Gerrit but it's still very rough.
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=analytics/gerrit-stats.git;a=summary
> is the repository to follow
> (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/core,n,z).
Yes, we have big hopes in this! :)
Nemo
Hello, dear wikitech-ians,
For the Hackathon, I (with some help!) prepared a laptop setup guide for
getting MediaWiki installed, from start to finish, on Windows, Mac, and
Linux. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathon/Laptop_setup
It is somewhat unique in the world of MediaWiki install instructions in
that:
* It uses sqlite.
* It is quite prescriptive -- it tells you what to do, rather than giving
you many options. (This helps us avoid danger points -- for example, some
people accidentally download Apache/PHP bundles with 5.3.1 still. To avoid
that, we advise a specific bundle.)
* It is targeted at people without any command line experience.
* It is targeted at people without necessarily any experience with a text
editor.
I originally wrote it for the Wikimania Hackathon's newbie track, and it
worked reasonably well there. Therefore, unlike most sets of "install
MediaWiki", it's been 'play-tested'.
I've copied it to here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathon/Laptop_setup
My own quibbles
---------------
One of the big problems we experienced with this Laptop setup page was
that it's not a great thing to do *first* -- it took some people way more
than one hour.
For some of the "Tasks" we put together for the Hackathon, you didn't need
a local development environment for MediaWiki, and for others, you did but
could live without getting git/gerrit going. Therefore, if a person wants
to set up MediaWiki on their own machine without requesting Git/Gerrit
access, then they don't have to go through all these steps.
Also, there were a handful of problems we worked out in the Mac OS version
of the documentation -- those are fixed now, though.
By and large, I'm pretty happy with it.
Next steps
----------
Here's my question for y'all: where do docs like this fit into the
mediawiki.org install guides?
Is there a person I should contact who maintains the main install guide,
or should I just be some combination of 'bold' and respectful and try to
weave it into the main documentation? (Doing that would be a pretty
massive undertaking.)
What I would like to see, honestly, is the following:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide has a few giant
buttons:
"Want to install MediaWiki on your web hosting?" which takes you to some
docs that discuss PHP, SFTP, etc.
"Want to install MediaWiki on your personal computer?" which takes you to
something like Hackathon/Laptop_setup
(Maybe other giant nav buttons?)
Alternatively, we could just let my Hackathon/Laptop_setup guide sit where
it is, and future Hackathons will just reference those, but the official
install docs won't ever link there. (I think this would not be as good,
but am curious to hear what y'all think.)
-- Asheesh.
Loads the page in read mode and my changes have not been saved.
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
Yes I am using Chrome on a Windows machine. English Wikipedia is where
I have had the problem. Sometimes when I hit save the text simply does
not save and everything is as it was before I tried to make a change.
I am always logged in when I edit. Typically occurs when I have cut
and pasted stuff into the edit box. There are no error messages just
no changes. Have not yet tested other browsers or computers. I was
hoping someone else has had this problem already and thus it had been
figure out :-)
James Heilman
http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Your+Go-to+Resource+for+Running+a+Mongo…
There were people from 30 countries at the Berlin hackathon this year.
It'd be cool if, by this time next year, there were 30 get-togethers to
help MediaWiki administrators swap tips and talk about what's happening
in MediaWiki development.
You can do it. You can do a case study of "ways to improve your
MediaWiki installation" at your local system administrators' or PHP
meetup. You can look for interested techies near you who want a
"helpathon." We can help.
--
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
Hi everyone,
It appears as though the discussion has continued apace for the Gerrit
evaluation process:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_evaluation
Thank you everyone for chipping in so far. The current format is a
mix of talk page and structured discussion, which seems ok for now.
It would appear from reading this page that the only alternative to
Gerrit that has a serious following is GitHub. Is that the case?
Personally, it seems like Phabricator or Barkeep has the best chance
of dislodging Gerrit, but those won't probably get serious
consideration without a champion pushing them.
Rob
I have been having problems saving some edits the last week or so.
This is not associated with an edit conflict. Wondering if anyone else
has experience this problem?
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
Hello comrades,
I've run into a challenge too interesting to keep to myself ;) My
immediate goal is to prototype an "offline" wikipedia, similar to Kiwix,
which allows the end-user to make edits and synchronize them back to a
central repository like enwiki.
The catch is, how to insert these changes without edit conflicts? With
linear revision numbering, I can't imagine a natural representation of
the data, only some kind of ad-hoc sandbox solution.
Extending the article revision numbering to represent a branching
history would be the natural way to handle optimistic replication.
Non-linear revisioning might also facilitate simpler models for page
protection, and would allow the formation of multiple, independent
consensuses.
-Adam Wight
As for the last few month the spam rate stewards deal with is raising.
I suggest we implement a new mechanism:
Instead of giving the user a CAPTCHA to solve, give him a image from commons
and ask him to add a brief description in his own language.
We can give him two images, one with known description, and the other with
unknown, after enough users translate the unknown in the same why, we
can use
it as a verified translation. We base on the known image description to
allow
the user to create the account.
Is it possible to embed a file from commons in the login page? is it
possible
to parse the entered text and store it?
benefits:
A) it would be harder for bots to create automated accounts.
B) We will get translations to many languages with little effort from
the users
signing up.
What do you think?
Hi !
I'm working on a extension for Media Wiki. And I need to detect when a
categorization is made on an article.
So I search for the annotation with the keyword "category" but, then I need
to detect categorizations in other languages.How can I get the translation
of the keyword "category" ?
Wich is the best way to add/remove an article from a Category ?
Thanks!