hey all,
I've been looking (cross-eyed) at the number of different licensing
schemes out there for my wiki (or series of wikis, based off of mediawiki),
and have pretty much narrowed it down to two:
1) GNU Free Documentation License
2) Free BSD Documentation License
My primary intent for my wiki is to use it as a springboard for others
to either cite in publications up-to and/or including text passages,
as long as acknowlegment of this fact is given in the printed or non-printed
work.
Both seem to fit the bill pretty well, but the GNU FDL seems to have a
lot more 'strings attached' which I'm not particularly fond of - but
on the other hand, wikipedia itself uses the GNU FDL, so the following
questions come to mind. If I used the FreeBSD documentation license:
1) would I be able to encorporate GNU FDL content as long as
citations were given?
2) would this prevent said wiki being eventually merged with
mediawiki (under, say wikibooks, or in its own category)?
I see that at 'http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html' they
list the Free BSD license as 'compatible' with the GPL, but I'm
not exactly sure what that means...
Ed
Is it possible to change the date format in signitures and history
pages (among others) which is currently something like "08:24, 7 jan
2005" to somehing else using the MediaWiki namespace?
Walter Vermeir a écrit:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to know why the address
http://www.wikipedia.org redirects
>> automatically to http://en.wikipedia.org... Is
Wikipedia an english
>> project with translations, or is it a real
international project?
>
>
> I asked myself that same question many years ago. I
think I posted the
> first question about this on some wikipedia list at
the end of 2001.
> Always a lot of objections. It would break links,
English is the lingo
> franca of the internet. At the time of the change
from wikipedia.com to
> wikipedia.org used to a opportunity to do it but it
has not be done.
>
> Wikipedia is a international project. But only the
English may use the
> front entrance.
I was among those who objected more than 2 years ago.
I believe most of the objections raised at that time
do not make any more sense. A lot was written on the
mailing list, and some discussion may be found here :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_to_do_with_www.wikipedia.org.
I do not think there were be links broken now. We
switch the adress more than 2 years ago, the
encyclopedia is so much bigger now, and we had truely
become international (which was not true 3 years ago
at all).
It is high time we finally get a portal page.
There were other solutions mentionned 2 years and a
half ago, but I think portal is the solution chosen
for all our projects, so best to stick with it
probably.
However, it might be nice to try to do something good
looking and not necessarily wiki (we do not need the
left menu for example).
I suggest that some people try to come up with some
good designs and that we get done with this. For
example, this might be a conceptual proposition
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_to_do_with_www.wikipedia.org-mav%27s_Pr…)
but it could need a graphist to polish it.
I hope someone come up with a good idea :-)
Could someone set up a contest page, where we could
add considerations to respect and where wikipedians
could link their proposal ?
Anthere
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Hey,
> After a discussion on the chan IRC #wikipedia.fr, I try here to get some more information. I would like to download the data of Wp fr (cur and old). I don't think there is the > totally of Wp fr (like discussions, personnal pages, help pages, ...). Is it possible to get these pages for working not connected ?
http://download.wikimedia.org/
Cheers,
Domas
I looked around in Help of meta.wikipedia and could not find the
template I wanted.
It seems to me the current "template" in mediawiki is something like
macro definition in C programming language, not the "template" in MS
office word. Like template for resume, letter,etc.
Do we have the analog of MS word template in mediawiki?
--
Be good....
LanguageGa.php at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LanguageGa.php has been
updated, tested and formatted for upload (thanks to
Amgine) so could someone please upload it to the live
versions of ga.wikipedia.org, ga.wiktionary.org,
ga.wikiquote.org and ga.wikibooks.org? It also would
be a great help if the existing MediaWiki messages
could be overwritten in all cases.
Thank you,
-- Kwekubo / Gabriel Beecham
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Hoi,
A first version of the "patrol" functionality is on-line. However, you
can mark your own contributions as patrolled. This I think is a smudge
on the face of this widely requested functionality. Just a simple
compare against the change it is patrolling for might do the trick..
For your information, on the nl:wikipedia there was a temporary truce
whereby no references were made to the nl:wiktionary. This truce was
agreed because the interproject links were promissed for release 1.4.
The relevant bugzilla entry has one of the highest number of requests.
As the interproject links have not been implemented, references to
wiktionary are created again in the nl:wikipedia. The argument that the
developpers do want they want and according to their own priorities is a
valid one. However when things are agreed in the "user world" based on
expectations from developpers, it is also reasonable that when these
expecations are not met, it is not without consequences.
Thanks,
GerardM
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Hello,
Actually our servers are listed as A records in wikimedia.org. domain
which is fine as we have everything in one point of presence (POP).
With the 3 new squids located in Paris, France, we now probably want to
set up subdomains for each POP to get things separate. Maybe in 2 or 3
years we will have servers spread everywhere in the world (read: total
domination).
So I think it is a good idea to start right NOW with a good DNS
convention and stick with it. DNS changes/migration is a really boring
and probably never completed completly so we want to avoid it.
Sometime ago I posted my idea about dns naming on:
http://wp.wikidev.net/DNS_scratchpad#Naming_scheme_propositions
Can sys admin post their ideas / proposals there please ? Then we willbe
able to chat about it and set it up.
cheers,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar
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The following order is proposed to get ahead of apache/memcached and squid needs for a few weeks (or maybe a bit longer.. .maybe:)) This will take the sites to about 50 servers.
For anyone who missed the last few days, we hit 1300 requests per second sustained on Monday and more Apache capability is needed to handle much more than that, as well as to allow for the inevitable failures. Still have 4-5 broken machines but those won't be fixed soon enough.
In other news, real transfer rates went to the limit of a 100 megabit/s connection on Monday and it appears that it'll be necessary to have the gigabit fiber module installed and in service to handle next Monday's load, if not sooner.
Switching for this order is to be handled by going to signle connections, internal only, for all apaches not doing squid or memcached duty. Discussion of the core switch seems just about done but won't be necessary for this order (the next is another matter...:)) Likely to be around US$7,000 if Cisco is unwilling to donate - and probably aren't going ot be ready to go ahead soon enough to matter, since the US gov IRS has until March to respond and CIsco says up to 90 days.. so best to brace for spending that money and using Cisco for access/apache/database type switches, if they are willing.
A master database server order, with lots of drive capability (12-16) to be master of a split off en+ja server set is planned soon. Likely to be 16GB dual Opteron with many 140GB 15,00 RPM SCSI disks for around $15,000 initially.
Suda is working fine as master - no load issues with it at near-record traffic levels on Monday and it appears to have plenty of requests and disk capacity for a few months.
4 iServ R100 "squid or memcached/apache"
CPU: Intel P4 540 (3.2GHz) 1MB Cache - HT - 800 FSB LGA775
RAM: 3GB (2 x 1GB, 2 x 512MB) DDRII-533 - Interleaved
Management: IPMI 2.0 Controller
Hot-Swap HDD : Seagate 200GB 7200.7 (7.2Krpm-8MB Cache-NCQ) SATA
Low Profile CD-ROM: Slimline 24X CD-ROM
Floppy: 1.44MB Floppy
WARRANTY: Standard 3 Year - Return to Depot
NOTES: Fedora Core3 or recommend $1896.00 $7584.00
6 iServ R100 "apache"
CPU: Intel P4 540 (3.2GHz) 1MB Cache - HT - 800 FSB LGA775
RAM: 512MB (2 x 256MB) DDRII-533 - Interleaved
Management: IPMI 2.0 Controller
Hot-Swap HDD : Seagate 200GB 7200.7 (7.2Krpm-8MB Cache-NCQ) SATA
Low Profile CD-ROM: Slimline 24X CD-ROM
Floppy: 1.44MB Floppy
WARRANTY: Standard 3 Year - Return to Depot
NOTES: Fedora Core3 or recommend $1221.00 $7326.00
Total: $14910.00
Was some discussion of alternative CPUs for benchmarking. Getting the easy machines purchased and installed soon before I go to bed came before getting fancy with this order...:)