Hello
Could someone please make User;Looxix an admin on the
french wikipedia ?
Thanks
Anthere
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In an attempt to keep things moderately under control on en, I've
installed mod_throttle onto larousse's apache:
http://www.snert.com/Software/mod_throttle/
It's still slow, but load has dropped from 20-60 range to 2ish-5ish,
which is rather more comfortable: when I try to do something on the
server, I don't have to wait several minutes for it to finish processing
my ssh login!
The docs for mod_throttle are very vague and short on real-world
examples, so this could be the worst configuration ever. I'm open to
suggestions if anyone's got more of a clue than me...
[brion@larousse conf]$ cat throttle.conf
<IfModule mod_throttle.c>
# 'Idle' should delay connections rather than refuse them.
# It's not clear how it reacts to images etc.
# 5-second minimum within 60-second period?
ThrottleClientIP 1024 Idle 5 60
ThrottleMaxDelay 20
# 'Document' theoretically ignores images, stylesheets,
# and such. If more than the max # of requests is grabbed
# within the cutoff period, you're denied with a 503 until
# the time period runs out.
# This isn't very elegant, but it may work...
# 10 requests per minute?
#ThrottleClientIP 1024 Document 10 60
# 10 requests per minute, sustained for two minutes?
#ThrottleClientIP 1024 Document 20 120
</IfModule>
Status info:
http://larousse.wikipedia.org/throttle-statushttp://larousse.wikipedia.org/throttle-client-ip (doesn't work)
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Happy installing.
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See notes and questions, below...
>Pliny - Running MySQL, Apache 1.3.27 and kernel 2.4.20 and the
>non-English Wikis
>
>Tyan S2462 motherboard
>2 Gig RAM (4 512Meg modules of ECC Reg. 266 MHz PC2100 DDR RAM in 4
>slots)
>2 Processor AMD Athlon MP 1800+/266FSB
>Adaptec AIC-7899P SCSI U160 controller
>1 IBM 36 GB SCSI Ultra 160 / 10 K RPM
>1 IBM 36 GB SCSI Ultra 320 / 10 K RPM (running as U160, of course)
>Dual onboard 3Com 10/100 (3C982) adapters
To give this machine some oomph, I could buy 4 pieces of 1 Gb
PC2100 266 RAM for a total of 4 gig for this machine, at $123 each.
Then, we could also do a CPU upgrade, I assume any Athlon MP with a
266 FSB would do? The fastest one I see is Athlon MP 2800, $241.
This is a Socket A? (Please verify by looking up the motherboard
specs?)
So that's $482 for new processors, $492 for more ram. And presumably,
those 512Mb pieces could be used elsewhere someday? Total cost, then
is: $974
>Larousse - Running Apache 1.3.27 and kernel 2.4.20 and the English Wiki
>
>TYAN S2518UGN motherboard
>2Gig RAM (4 512Meg modules of ECC Reg. 133 MHz PC133 SDRAM in 4 slots)
>Pentium III 866MHz processor w/256K cache
>Adaptec AIC-7899 SCSI U160 controller
>1 Quantum Atlas 18 GB SCSI U160 Drive, currently unused and known to
> be troublesome (It's awaiting some tsting which I have put off due to
> the high load on the system)
>1 IBM 36 GB SCSI U160 Drive
>Dual onboard Intel 10/100 (eepro) adapters
This one is a bit trickier, so I suspect that a better route to go
with this one would be a motherboard upgrade. After all, a PIII/866
is very tired technology now.
I found a Tyan S2462NG (the same as in pliny?) with a single 2800
processor for $585. Throw in another 2800 the same as above, for
$241, and throw in the same 4 gig of DDR ram as above, $492.
So that's 585+492+241= $1318 to make this machine identical (or
anyhow, similar) to pliny.
So $1318+974 = $2292 total cost.
Since I priced all these things from different suppliers, I'd have to
study out the options for shipping costs, etc. But anyhow for $2500,
we'd have this stuff for Wikipedia. That'd be a huge improvement, I
think, while also leaving us with two nearly identical machines, and
thus well-poised for these two to be equal load-balancing frontend
webservers in the future, when we may buy a MEGA MONDO db machine.
I looked hard at AMD Opteron machines as an alternative. For around
$6,000, we could get a pretty decent Opteron machine. But this
tech. is so new that the options for motherboards and the like are not
very many. For example, it's sort of hard (not impossible!) to find
Opteron/SCSI machines -- many vendors are like Penguin Computing,
i.e. they are currently only offering a single Opteron alternative,
and it isn't SCSI.
So my thinking is that we beef up the processors and ram in what we
have now, and at the same time prepare for a new architecture in the
near future.
--Jimbo
Hi.
I know ideas for a distributed Wikipedia have been discussed here before, but I
haven't seen the following angle before (this may just be because I don't read
my mail carefully enough of course):
Let's say you have 10 Wikipedia servers. All of them dispense articles for
reading directly. When an article is about to be edited, the title is hashed,
and the corresponding server is contacted.
That way, each article "belongs" on one of X server, so a lot of consistency
problems disappear. That server can again notify the others about changes in
its "own" articles.
If a server goes down, it's not the end of the world, an Xth of the articles
aren't editable for a while. The downed server's "lease" can be revoked after
an hour, perhaps.
While I don't have the capacity to implement this myself (just fending off the
"send patches"), it doesn't appear to be such a gigantic departure from the
existing system. (Yes, big. But not rewrite.)
Wouldn't it be worth looking into? It seems increased demand eats up every
regular measure taken (kind of like congested highways becoming even more
congested when they're expanded).
-- Daniel
Hello,
The full text search has been disabled en
es.wikipedia.
Is that on purpose for performance reasons?
AstroNomer
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So, I noticed that if you select Printable Version on something (as I often
do so I can copy & paste, as highlighting is fairly broken for me on the
normal page layout), it discards any other parameters, as in &target=foo on
the Contributions page (leading it to give a 'no target specified'
message), old versions of an article instead show current, etc. One can
still punch them back into the address bar, but this is suboptimal...
I use IE6 and Cologne Blue, for future reference.
-- Jake
On Sourceforge there are lots of bugs that are still open even though
comments attatched to them provide a resolution. Who can change the
status of a bug? I don't seem to be able to, even though I am registered
as a developer.
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