>>>Hm. You say you are following lj_dev, but you seem to be missing
something. First, I am not running any servers, let alone LiveJournal
ones, apart from my little development installation which I use only for
testing. Hopefully, I'll have a Wikipedia one soon too. Secondly, both
MemCacheD and FotoBilder (and S2 as well) were programmed almost
entirely by Bradfitz and Avva; I and other volunteers were not invited
to participate in the development of it.
.<<<<
whoops, i see your posts so often in lj-dev, and your name so much in
bugzilla, and since you've had a higher ranking in the bazaar than avva, i
kinda assumed you had become part of the core team, and maybe worked for LJ.
my bad.
Anyways.. do you see a possibility of memcacheD ever being useful in the
wikipedia? obviously at this point it can't really be used because we would
need a ton more memory and probably another server, but, would it be
practical for the large ammount of text per article, and large ammount of
constantly changing articles that wikipedia has? from what I assume, given
that there was enough memory available it would do wonders for the article
search, woulnt it?
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Hi, folks.
Today I really wondered why my own CVS copy of Phase3 did not show those
funky "edit only this section" links like that one on test.wiki does.
Then I found out that LanguageDe.php misses many new keywords that are
neccessary for this feature (and also for others).
I wrote a small script (quick and dirty) that compares two language
files and searches for missing keywords. I'd commit the script into the
CVS if you folks want it there. It's a bash script, though.
Bye!
Matthias
--------- Original message --------
From: Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net>
To: <wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] CVS
Date: 07-02-03 10:28
That would be me. my webmail is stupid and didnt send it to the list, my
bad. plus i forgot to configure it to show who I am. But yes, i follow
lj-dev, and fb quite closely and Im constantly impressed by the things you
guys pull off. like memcache, which had me droooling. I just figured since
you help run (probably) one of the biggest mysql/apache clusters/websites in
the internet, with some of the biggest traffic and DB loads you would have a
couple of things to say on the subject. nice to see you here
-Lightning Will
> Somebody sent me an anonymous (no name, no from address) e-mail in
response to a mail I sent to this list. Since I don't know who the
sender is, I guess I'll have to reply through the list. Please let me
know if this is not the correct way of doing it.
I'd be very grateful if the sender of the mail showed themselves.
> are you timwi from LJ by any chance?
Yes.
> cause if you are, im thinking you might have some ideas to try to
> reduce load to our servers and optimize this whole sheebang.
Why does it take a Timwi from LJ to do database optimisations? :-)
Anyway - yeah, I was going to have some looks at it later on. I'm
waiting for my first patch to go through first though -- I wouldn't like
to spend time on it if it's not going to be used anyway.
I noticed that pages with a lot of links (like the "List of XYZ
topics"
pages) take a long time to edit. I'm imagining it updates some table for
all those links even if just one of the links was changed, or something.
Is that the case? Perhaps if someone could point me at a particular file
and line where this is happening? Thanks in advance! :)
Greetings,
Timwi
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Somebody sent me an anonymous (no name, no from address) e-mail in
response to a mail I sent to this list. Since I don't know who the
sender is, I guess I'll have to reply through the list. Please let me
know if this is not the correct way of doing it.
I'd be very grateful if the sender of the mail showed themselves.
> are you timwi from LJ by any chance?
Yes.
> cause if you are, im thinking you might have some ideas to try to
> reduce load to our servers and optimize this whole sheebang.
Why does it take a Timwi from LJ to do database optimisations? :-)
Anyway - yeah, I was going to have some looks at it later on. I'm
waiting for my first patch to go through first though -- I wouldn't like
to spend time on it if it's not going to be used anyway.
I noticed that pages with a lot of links (like the "List of XYZ topics"
pages) take a long time to edit. I'm imagining it updates some table for
all those links even if just one of the links was changed, or something.
Is that the case? Perhaps if someone could point me at a particular file
and line where this is happening? Thanks in advance! :)
Greetings,
Timwi
Tim Starling wrote:
>I've written some PHP code to convert date formats from those typed to a
>user preference. A demonstration is now available at:
>
>http://www.piclab.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Date_demonstration
>
>There's also some information at:
>
>http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_dates
>
>Any comments would be appreciated. There's just a few minor things left to
>do: for example I want to have an option in LocalSettings.php to disable it.
>
I haven't seen your code, but if you haven't already done so I highly
recommend putting the guts of this into Language.php, so it doesn't
clutter up the common code, and so other languages that want such an
option can adapt it cleanly.
The user option should also override the sitewide setting in
Language::date() ($wgAmericanDates true or false -- incidentally,
although there were terrible flame wars a few months ago when it was
suggested to change the date format used to display timestamps from
American to British order, I've not heard a peep since the default got
flipped during the server upgrade over a month ago.)
>Can I please have whatever access is necessary to enable me to install this
>on test.wikipedia.org, and ultimately on the live server?
>
>
I'll see about setting up a login for you. (Erik probably should get
one, too.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
It's been oft complained that it's difficult to link to various special
functions -- backlinks, contribs, and the like -- which might be nice. I
made a quick hack to allow tacking a parameter onto a special page in a
wikilink, like so:
[[Special:Contributions/User name]]
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Page title]]
[[Special:Recentchangeslinked/Page title]]
etc
See some examples and try it out at on the test wiki at
http://test.wikipedia.org/
The slash (/) doesn't have to be the separator character; if people find
it offensive I'm sure we could change it to something else. :) A(nother)
colon may or may not be preferable.
An advantage that a variant on this scheme has over the experimental
interwiki prefixes Erik put in a bit ago ([[BackLinks:foo]] etc) is that
it will require no additional per-wiki maintenance, and can be used
across existing interwiki links (once set up on the live wikis), eg:
[[DeWikipedia:Spezial:Contributions/Eloquence]] would work from English
Wikipedia, or even from other unrelated wikis so long as they support
the DeWikipedia prefix.*
A disadvantage (so far) is that since history & editing don't go through
special pages, they'll need a little more work to set up on a similar
scheme.
(Technical notes please follow up to wikitech-l. Policy & usability
notes please follow up to wikipedia-l.)
*On a somewhat related note, it may be useful to set up a redirector
such that other wikis don't have to set up a billion separate interwiki
prefixes to link to Wikipedia. eg, a link to:
[[WikiPedia:pl:Medycyna]]
would typically end up at
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/pl:Medycyna
That could never be an article on English wikipedia, since internal
links would take the pl: to be an interlanguage prefix, and it's
rejected as a bad title. So why not redirect? So, to reiterate our
example with this possibility we might link:
[[WikiPedia:de:Spezial:Contributions/Eloquence]]
on any wiki supporting the WikiPedia interwiki prefix, with no need to
bug site owners to extend their prefix list for other languages. Too
many pieces? Maybe. :) But probably easier to type than
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Spezial:Contribtutions&target=El…
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Hi there,
Since about one hour fr: is slower and slower. Now it's almost death.
de: is very slow also, but en: seems to be more or less OK.
Is there a problem?
--
Luc Van Oostenryck aka Looxix
Hi,
I want to suggest some improvements:
* Page-titles: more details for bookmarks+browserhistory
** Language-Code (en, de ...)
** Pagetype, like "Search", "Special", "WhatLinksHere", "PageHistory"...
("Editing" already gets into the page-title)
E.g. instead of "Sport - Wikipedia" and "Sport"
it should be "Sport - Wikipedia-DE" and "Whatlinkshere: Sport"
* Tweaks on the links for Next/Prev page:
** Recent changes: The current output is:
Show last 50 | 100 | 250 | 500 changes in last 1 | 3 | 7 | 14 | 30 days.
Show new changes starting from HH:MM 1 Jul 2003
It would be nice to also have a link "Show changes older then...",
because "100" re-displays the first 50 entries.
** Page history:
the prev/next links look like this:
"View (previous 50) (next 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)."
This is misleading on the last page of the list, e.g.
"(next 50)" is not deactivated as on the first page.
* Upload-page: after a successful upload, show some
cut&paste examples how to use the file, like:
[[Image:YourPicture.jpg]]
or:
<div style="float:right;padding-left:10px">
[[Bild:FlagXY.png]]<br>FlagXY
</div>
I think these might not be too difficult...
By(t)e,
HaJo Gurt
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Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is
very important that you do it. -- Mohandas Gandhi
Hi, folks!
I implemented the feature that allows users (and the admins) to define a
default set of namespaces for searches. Doing so, I had to add a new
string to LanguageXX.php: defaultns. The string is already defined in
Language.php and LanguageDe.php. Since my skills in other foreign
languages are not that good I'd want to encourage the maintainers of the
respective files to include that string soon.
The changes have already been committed to the CVS repository.
Bye!
Matthias