At 15:29 04/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>>> "BV" == Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> writes:
>
> Me> * On saving an edit of a page, the software simply *deletes*
> Me> the cached HTML file. This will trigger the 404 handler on the
> Me> next hit for the page, which will regenerate the cached file.
>
> BV> This limits us to a single web server per wiki or a networked
> BV> filesystem shared between them.
>
>Yeah, I think you're right. I'm not coming up with a better way to
>invalidate caches across multiple servers -- except maybe some kind of
>RPC, which would be real real losey.
>
> Me> * Of course, logged-in users want to get their pages rendered
> Me> _just_so_, with question marks and [edit] links, etc. They
> Me> should also have all their "My page" and other links working.
>
> BV> We have talk pages and notification for IP addresses, too.
>
>Thanks! I thought about this, but forgot to put it in. I don't have a
>clever idea for how to do notifications for non-logged-in users with
>static files.
>
>It's definitely a trade-off -- whether the performance advantage of
>serving static files would outweigh the loss of functionality from
>always generating dynamic pages.
>
>~ESP
In the long term when the system will get very busy should we generate a
static page for apache to "include" with a module for the dynamic. So that
it can be part cached and part live. Just thinking aloud :)
Dave Caroline
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Jimbo,
Why can't we provide some sort of stipend for Brion Vibber? If my
occasional glances at the Wikitech mailing list are any indication, it
seems like he's doing at least as much work as Larry ever did.
Can you hire him for Wikimedia, and let him do extra work for Bomis --
or should it be the other way around?
Ed Poor
> Would it be possible to automatically create an alphabetical list of wikipedia entries/articles?
> This is available in many electronic encyclopedia and would make searching easier.
> Cheers,
> Jurriaan
There is already an alphabetical list of articles available in Wikipedia: it is "All pages by title" on Special Pages or Special:Allpages. It has been temporarily disabled but there is always a saved copy available.
It won't really help you with searching, only with browsing. And even then, considering there are at least 170,000 articles, you will have to browse for a really long time. :-)
The current saved copy is rather old (13 May 2003) - could someone please update it.
Brion mentioned on November 21 the miser mode override facility that would supposedly let people update the saved copy easily by adding &magic=yes to the end of the URL.
e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages&magic=yes> &magic=yes
However this currently returns "You have requested a special page that is not recognized by the wiki."
Is this the correct syntax? If so, does anyone know why it doesn't work? Not so much for Allpages but for some of the other special pages it would be useful to have updates every week or three.
Michael (Nanobug)
Is there anyone out there who has considered contributing to the
MediaWiki PHP script, but decided it against for reasons such as:
* Don't know PHP/MySQL
* Poor documentation, can't understand the code
* Wouldn't know where to start
* Don't have a test server
* Don't have CVS/server access, and you find contributing otherwise to
be tedious and frustrating
Or perhaps you've contributed on occasion but you're deterred from
contributing again for reasons such as those above?
If so, please speak up! What areas could we improve to make it easier to
contribute?
If you prefer, you can contact me privately at tstarlingphysicsunimelbeduau.
-- Tim Starling.
> . The not being realtime may be a plus or minus, this is the very
thing we tossed around a little in the Pump.
> Certainly for Wikipedia contributors, realtime is best. But perhaps
not so for readers, who are after stable content.
As was pointed out on the pump, there is no reason to suppose that the
pedia was any more "stable" when Google took its snapshot than it is at
any other time..
****
Hi,
i tried to have a look at the newly created articles on de:, but Special:Newpages
shows only articles from the last ~3 days. But i remember that it used to
show new articles from the past week. Do i missed an announcement, has
anything changed in the software or is it a random feature?
Regards,
Nils.
Cross posted to Wikipedia-l (if fixing this is
anything but a technical issue - which it shouldn't be
since this feature worked before -, then please
respond to Wikipedia-l)
Changing XxWikipedia: in-line links to :xx: in-line
links does not solve the problem that XxWikipedia:
does not work. :xx: needs to be reserved for easy
in-line language linking /within/ a single project
(such as Wiktionary when it finally gets
internationalized - xx: links would therefore be magic
language links) and the more explicit Xx{project_name}
should a failsafe default that will work the same in
any MediaWiki-powered project and meta.
Here is the diff that still shows the broken links:
http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Recentchanges/All_lan…
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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I've raised the watchlist default cutoff from the much-hated 1-hour for
users with 250+ items to 12 hours for 1000+ items. It could comfortably
go rather further, I suspect.
Also, I noticed that Special:Asksql was a little too permissive; until
this is locked down right I've disabled Asksql on the live servers.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)