Giskart wrote: and now Esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.com/wiki/Vikipedia_Ambasadorejo My experience with Meta has been that I check it somewhere between very rarely and never, which makes it useless for me for discussion or site announcements. On the other hand, the wikis I participate in *editing* I check rather regularly (en, eo quite frequently, fr at least few times a week; I check de for the bug reports page), and so I'm much more likely to notice big news / help requests / policy discussions there. Likewise the mailing lists (eg intlwiki-l) come directly to my inbox once I've subscribed, so it's tough to ignore them. I doubt I'm alone in this, so I would expect to have an easier time getting ahold of, say, the French wikipedia community by writing on a page on the French wiki which will appear to all French wikipedians in their RecentChanges list than by writing on a page on meta which if I'm lucky someone (an "ambassador") will remember to check. If I want to get ahold of _everyone's_ attention, that's what intlwiki-l is for. The people who are subscribed to these mailing lists (the "ambassadors") are guaranteed to receive that, and they can then make sure there is appropriate local discussion on their home wikis and that everybody's voices are heard on the mailing list. Someone unable or intimidated to post directly to the big list can leave a request at their local "embassy", which the local ambassador can send on to the mailing list. But you're welcome to prove me wrong, I've been hoping we could do something useful with meta for a long time. :) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)