"you are quite welcome to have a "party" or "clique" discussion on what your mailing list clique wishes to do about the Governance of this project. I will proceed as I am until someone writes a [[m:Status quo]] that identifies some action of mine as a problem, or until someone else achieves consensus on a means of [[m:Governance]] on the project now that Larry is gone. -24" (I of course had to sign 24's comment for him/her -- still doesn't get that convention either...) If I read this right, then this person is purposely trying to force us into joining his "wikipedia governance" project! And if we don't, 24 will continue > doing the same darn things in the same way as he/she is already doing them. I don't know about ya'all, but I don't like being coerced.

"The Militia, 20 users granted sysop status by Larry, defend the users visions to the near-death (well, maybe a really drunken stupor with a head injury or two from falling on the ground in drunken camraderie) and all of these best cases are realized, and none of the threats come to pass." 24 seems to be feeding on our inaction so far.

Also from [[m:Best cases]] ".....Wiki gradually evolves into the center of discourse on controversial topics because of its vaunted fairness, and its commitment to evolving as close to a [[m:natural point of view]] as the [[w:Neutral point of view]] of the target [[m:three billionth user]] will permit. Other encylopedias gradually give up or are bought out by donors who like wiki - and wiki rather than a search engine becomes the first stop for most researchers in the world. Gradually, universities kind of fade away as centers of research but flourish as centers of ethical training, moral example, brainstorming, wild and uninhibited art, and true creative vision. Nobel Prize winners thank wiki on the stand as they accept their rewards - and historians credit it with breaking down barriers between academic, populist, and economic views of the world - coming slowly to a consensus... " Can anyone say CRACKPOT! This person seems to have MAJOR plans for the 'pedia. We all better bow down and kiss this person's feet before he/she has the "Anti-globalization movement .... flood [wikipedia] with 3000 versions of [[m:natural point of view]] all at once." This is dangerous folks, I think we have, as Larry recently pointed out on the meta, 'fed the troll' way too much already. 24 has stated before that he/she has no ideology -- I would counter that this person is one of the most ideological people that I have come across. Both 24 and mirwin want to subvert the project to their own purposes. Mirwin is mostly harmless but 24 is most certainly not. maveric149 [Wikipedia-l] To manage your subscription to this list, please go here: http://www.nupedia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l