Hello Mark W.,
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:50:24 -0700, you wrote:
I think the key here is, when using Windows, what
version of Uniscribe you
are using, not the browser (also, it may depend on what font you are using
- some fonts have opentype tables for diacritic positioning, others don't).
I already pointed out that the problems are *specific* to Mozilla and
Mozilla Firefox. Also, the fonts creating problems in Firefox do not create
those problems in other, non-Mozilla, programs.
As far as Uniscribe goes, I use version 1.471.4030.0 -- a version which
should be quite able to handle this, as indeed it proves to do in all the
other programs I run --, and I have put a local copy in the "Mozilla
Firefox" program folder without that making any difference.
I have basically no problems in Opera, IE, OpenOffice 1.1.3, Windows
Notepad and Windows WordPad except for the occasional minor kerning
problems in PDF creation -- a problem that is widely known as a separate
issue..
The font I use the most is Ezra SIL SR -- a font that basically has all the
OpenType tables you may desire...
The following page from my own web site can serve as a test page:
http://utne.nvg.org/j/toledot/zebedhabbat.html
The CSS stylesheet used for this page has Hebrew font set in prioritised
order for paragraphs of the type p.he:
line-height: 18pt;
text-align:justify;
font-family: "Ezra SIL SR", "Ezra SIL", "SBL
Hebrew", Cardo,
"Times New Roman", Times, serif;
font-size: 14pt;
font-weight: normal;
direction: rtl;
If you have all the fonts installed, you might note that the main header of
the page, in SBL Hebrew, displays its Hebrew correctly, -- whilst the
paragraphs further down on the page, in Ezra SIL SR, do not.
The font Ezra SIL SR has no problems with rendering in Opera, IE,
OpenOffice 1.1.3, Windows Notepad and Windows WordPad -- and there is no
sensible reason that I know of for it not being able to do the same glyph
substitution in Mozilla / M. Firefox...
In case you think that my manually coded CSS and HTML may be especially
faulty, you can also check the following page from Mechon-Mamre:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm
The CSS style sheet for that page contains the following specifications:
font-family:"Ezra SIL SR","Ezra SIL",code2000,Cardo,"Guttman
Vilna-Normal",Galaxie,"Arial Unicode
MS";color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;margin:1.5em;
seemed like people were like "Oh, did you try
this? Didn't work? Oh well."
which can hardly be a good thing for FireFox.
Exactly... :] For the time being, Firefox seems to be just a bit too flaky
to be of sufficent use even for people who know pretty well what they are
doing -- and we cannot expect that people who don't know CSS- and
HTML-coding ++ to be happy with a product that even reasonably code-savvy
people have trouble with...
-Olve
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Olve Utne
http://utne.nvg.org