It'd be pretty cool to have some map making software to make maps for all the different languages with native names for places. James -----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sj Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 9:44 AM To: wikipedia-l(a)wikimedia.org; cecil.houchin(a)ngc.com Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] FW: [Ticket#: 105515] Wikipedia - Concept and MindMaps Cecil, great idea! There aren't many graphical-interface designers around here, and it would take a bit of cleverness to work out how to fit a map's worth of content onto a screen. Perhaps there is some offline mindmapping software which could be open-sourced and adapted to the purpose? Let us know if you are aware of such software. Jens, there are hundreds of mind-mapping methods; Buzan is welcome to reign emperor of his vapour-empire, but should hardly dampen this discussion. +sj+ On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:57:29 +0100, Jens Ropers <ropers(a)ropersonline.com> wrote: -- +sj+ _ _ :-------.-.--------.--.--------.-.--------.--.--------[...] _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

S> Cecil, great idea! There aren't many graphical-interface Agreed; a very good idea. S> designers around here, and it would take a bit of cleverness to S> work out how to fit a map's worth of content onto a screen. S> Perhaps there is some offline mindmapping software which could S> be open-sourced and adapted to the purpose? Let us know if you S> are aware of such software. I'd recommend [[en:GraphViz]], a generic graphing tool. The real challenge would be coming up with a succinct way to enter the connections. One way would be to enter the information on the referring pages, as we do with categories. For instance, you might have the following on [[Investments]]: [[Conceptmap-to:Bonds]] [[Conceptmap-to:Real estate]] ...etc. The trouble would come up if a page participated in multiple concept maps. For instance, an article on hematopoietic stem cells (the cells in the bone marrow that give rise to all blood cells) would logically fit into maps of immunology and hematology. Those maps would overlap, but are conceptually distinct (you might mention T cells on both maps, but you would only talk about MHC molecules on the former). Perhaps, when the map diverged, the links could be named explicitly. For instance, the common lymphoid progenitor would be linked from the hematopoietic stem cell node in both cases, so you could avoid specifying the map: [[Conceptmap-to:Common lymphoid progenitor]] But the T cell article might have sub-nodes only in the Immunology map. From [[T cell, you might have]]: [[Conceptmap-to:MHC|Immunology]] Of course, it might be better to explicitly specify the map in all cases. (You have to explicitly specify the map at least once; because there are no back-links, people are likely to be confused if it wasn't specified in every case.) --Joe