On sr:, we are starting with reading articles. It can be interesting
to people who prefer to hear (not to read) articles, and, of course,
to blind people. We are starting with the list "Articles which all
Wikipedias should have" (or whatever is the name of that article).
Did anyone start something similar (except Wikinews, of course)?
From wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
"The Persian Wikipedia is the Persian language version of Wikipedia. As
the Persian language is written right to left, so is the website."
I just realized that the English Wikipedia has articles on quite a
number of wikipedia language editions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedias_by_language
But hey, isn't there more to say about it than just outdated numbers of
articles or the writing direction? Doesn't each wikipedia have something
unique, a special culture, notable events which are not milestones?
Spend a while to polish the article about your wikipedia to spare it the
fate of rotting as a "wikipedia-related stub" in the cleanup department ;-)
greetings,
elian
PS: In the german wikipedia these articles would probably have been
deleted as irrelevant...ehemm...that's our specific culture
Roger Luethi wrote:
> However, short articles do get put up for deletion regularly based on that
> criterion.
> The respective German guidelines are indeed written in a fairly similar
> spirit to the English ones. They don't seem to advocate the deletion of
> small stubs. But the folks who frequent [[de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten]]
> tend to have a different view.
Annoyingly, it's true that a few users at de: seem to do nothing else then filing requests for deletion. I don't ignore that fact. One even picked the user name "Löschantrag" (='request for deletion') but is on the verge of being blocked AFAIK. What I wanted to point out is that these outrages by no means reflect the spirit of the German WP. The community is aware of the "Löschwahn" a few people have fallen prey to and the way they can harm the project e. g. by daunting off newcomers writing their first article.
Btw, I have written about 80 stubs for de: (and expanded most of them to full-size articles by now!) and only got one rfd ever and that one was pretty well justified. My experience: as long as your stubs contain the very basic facts about the subject ("where?", "who?", "when?", "why?")
they are 100% delete-o-maniac-proof.
Regards,
Boris
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Roger wrote:
> The German WP doesn't keep articles
> just because the subject is notable. If an article is too short, it
> will get deleted unless someone expands it (IIRC a time limit of a few
> days is quite common).
This is not correct. There are a number of two or three line articles that have been on the German Wikipedia for at least a year and nobody is planning to delete them. According to German WP deletion rules shortness doesn't justify a deletion and deletion is only a means of last resort ("letztes Mittel") if other measures fail. If it weren't that way, would we have almost 300,000 articles then?
Boris
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> As a Steward, I state that we do not take actions on requests of single
> persons, but only at the request of communities.
OK. Three persons is not enough, isn't it? How can I get request of the
community when I am blocked?
> Unless you can show me evidence that your request is carried by a broader
> group within the Czech Wikipedia, I will not take any action, and I am quite
> convinced that my colleagues have the same opinion on this.
OK. What else I should have do? Ask ArbCom at en:? On cs: there's none. Or
directly Wikimedia's Board of Trustees?
Yours faithfully,
Vít Zvánovec
As I wrote on 23 August 2005, 12:57 at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comments/Cswiki_issues, Mr Vrba
arbitrarily, for no clear violation of rules, bans many users, that's why he
should be *immediately* desysopped. Unfortunately, no action was taken and he
continues in his behaviour: He pressed me not to edit my second home page under
pain of banning me and last days he even banned me forever. He has written this
reason: "Důvod "nechce psat encyklopedii, ale provokovat ostatni".. " which
means: "He doesn't wish to write the encyclopedia, but to provoke others." This
I deny. I used my altnernative account
(http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista:Z) not to "provoke" others by using
my ordinary account
(http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista:V%C3%ADt_Zv%C3%A1novec). As a result
of mediation with Mr. Pospíšil and Malý čtenář I very limited my edits of
dissusion pages. But to no avail.
Mr. Vrba ignores consequences of his actions. He wrote: "If somebody share with
him IP address, it vexes me, but nothing can be done." He lied. He had known
very well that he blocked my second account, I personally called his attention
to that and he signed his knowledge of this. It doesn't matter too much sharing
IP address (I know how to bypass it), but the fact I cannot violate Sock puppet
policy. Everything could be done, RfC, anything. Not to unilaterarily ban me
forever.
After that I was charged with many other wikicrimes. Since I am banned forever
I was denied right to defend myself. Therefore I present my defence at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:V%C3%ADt_Zv%C3%A1novec/My_defence
Since the Czech sysops are intimidated not to unblock me (Tom Pecina was
already proposed to be desysopped for unblocking me), interference of someone
not connected with cs: is heavy needed.
Yours truly,
Vít Zvánovec
Re starting a new wikipedia from scratch, I can vouch for everything everyone as said so far, as someone who faced nothing but a TOC 10 months ago on scn.wiki (actually it was nothing but a white page until Mark dumped a template in there for me).
The only thing I can add is that it is a bloody long, slow, laborious process and one has to strike a balance between setting up all the infrastructure (very boring work) and writing wonderful, brilliant articles (which is slightly more interesting).
I will now make a full confession. My second child had just been born at the time and my wife was going to bed at 8pm every night, leaving me free for 4 hours every evening for about the first 6 months of scn.wiki's life - that pretty much gives you an idea of what is required in terms of time. Now you are probably all thinking, typical sicilian male - leaving baby duties to the woman! But I have been punished well and truly the last 4 months or so, where I have been on permanent wake up duty and have been getting by on a few hours of sleep per night - as a consequence - the wonderful, brilliant articles in scn.wiki have had to take a back seat!
Salutamu
pippu d'a
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Hi all.
We have a domain reserved for Luganda (Lugandan?) at lg.wikipedia.org.
It currently has no content, although it is open for editing.
Someone left a question on the en:wiki Help Desk about translating
articles into Luganda; I pointed them towards that site. However, it's
pretty much completely empty other than the main page, which I can see
being pretty daunting for a new user. Is there anything on meta:
intended to act as a "so, you're starting on an empty project" guide?
(Anyone who wants to leave other advice on the HD page, please do)
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- Andrew Gray
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