> Now that we've seen all this, can someone tell Aphaia he has to keep his
> hands off from the test wikis? I'm sure he will go on erasing the work of
> others when he isn't told that by someone like Jimbo, Angela, Tony or
> Anthere.
First, "he" is a "she", fyi :)
Second, she didn't erase anything, but merely listed articles on VfD - which is *not* the same as deleting.
Third, on foundation-l, she and the author of the pages agreed that there was a misunderstanding - so good faith on both parts.
> Regards,
> W
Regards
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--- Sean Barrett <sean(a)epoptic.org> wrote:
>
> We think highly of you, too. However, we refrain from posting
> mindlessly bigoted rants on mailing lists devoted to the process of
> building a free encyclopedia.
Yeah, ok, maybe over the top.
But, so you know, I am both a French and US citizen, living in Los
Angeles now, but lived in Fort Worth, TX for 8 years. Yeeehaw!
Actually, I would like to address the point along the same line of
thought that names of large multinational corporations are shunned on
en-wikipedia, to the advantage of the brand name that said
corporations used to successfully market their product to the
american consumer. How do you explain to somebody that Toyota !=
Toyota Motor Corporation when their level of expertise is limited to
US High School education level?
In any case, I get your point.
Chris Mahan
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Just to keep up with information.... I saw an announcement today in two websites, so thought it worth to say a bit about it
.... Perhaps to divert our gentle editors from daily life in France or in the USA ... (grin)
News from a very minor wikipedia (I think this deserves to be reported in next Quarto Sj, I'll write up a bit....)
The association Geekcorps recently (it started possibly 2 months ago) made a lot of efforts to try to stimulate a minor wikipedia in an african language.
Along with work in translation of the interface, addition of major rules and principles of Wikipedia, Geekcorps also decided to motivate editors speaking bambara in Mali to participate to the bambara wikipedia (http://bm.wikipedia.org) in a *financial* way.
The conditions : to live in Mali and to be able to write in bambara.
The prize is : 200 CFA to earn per article written with at least 200 words (max 5000 CFA per person) plus a bonus prize for specific actions.
Specific actions are
1) translation of document or interface
2) start a wikibooks on Bamanankan
3) start Bamanankan Wikiquotes
4) start Bamanankan Wiktionary
5) start another wikipedia in other languages spoken in Mali
(Note that there are no requirement of quality to get the prize per article, but the length)
Geekcorps also remind to Mali editors that Mali people might be interested in the following languages
* french (fr)
* english (en)
* fulfude (ff)
* wolof (wo)
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The bambara version is still not very active, but Guaka is working on it from time to time. But what I find interesting is the organisation proposal... this way might be one of the good ones to really get such versions off the ground. Ie, a wikipedia being babysitted by a local organisation.
I think there is much interest in following such initiatives. What do you think ?
Please also look at the site of MaliWiki : http://mali.geekcorps.org/mediawiki/index.php/Accueil (based on mediawiki)
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Note that there are a couple of slightly embarassing little issues related to these attempts by local organisations.
For example, when an organisation (ANAFA) made some work on the wolof version about 3 months ago, someone asked me a sysop account, which I gave (usual process for small projects).
I however noticed soon after that the main page was a bit cluttered with quite a bit of advertisement for their organisation. (see for example http://wo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1482)
I tried to discuss to them about that, and since we did not really reached an agreement, I had to remove the sysop status.
Since then, the wo is inactive.
Ant
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Dear stewards,
Can one of you please upgrade Cicero and me to sysops on the Limburgic
wikipedia? We have an extremely violent vandal at the moment, blanking all
pages, and our only current sysop is deconnected from the internet. We MUST
block him now. He's razing our whole project. We are
http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:Cicero and
http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:HaafLimbo , respectively.
Thank very, very much in advance,
Wouter.
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Hoi,
Jimbo spoke about his impression that people want to know the
qualifications of authors. This has been discussed to deatch so I will
not comment. :)
Listening to the show I heard something else, it was put forward that
people take wikipedia as the "gospel truth" either because they do not
have more time or because they still do not have the skills to do some
proper research. Jimbo dit put it very well on the show that the
intention of an encyclopedia is to cover the basics of a subject. Having
thought about it for a day, I came up with this conclusion: we emphasise
on providing the sources for the articles written. This is cool for as
far as it goes. However the emphasis should be on where the reader
should go next. It is much more productive to state what and where good
further reading can be found. The point is that the source for a fact
does not necessarily make good reading even though it proves a factoid.
It is much more productive to show where to go next.
The crux is that the mentioning of sources make a Wikipedia article
credible. It does not point where to go for further research or
information. To me this is distinctly different and it is much more
important that we encourage people to learn more.
Thanks,
GerardM
There was a Jimbo interview about Wikipedia on Friday around 12 noon Boston
time. I was in it as well by phone, so I'm interested in hearing it :-) Did
anyone get a recording and/or transcription?
- d.
--- Stirling Newberry <stirling.newberry(a)xigenics.net> wrote:
>
> On Mar 9, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Mark Williamson wrote:
>
> > What about people who speak Hopi as their first language and would
> > like to read about Milwaukee?
>
> What about the vast majority of our readers who have needs that are
> being ignored while certain individuals ride their private hobby
> horses?
Er, that is what I do already by writing about the things I find to be
interesting. That is the hobby horse I ride. Why is this wrong?
-- mav
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Mathias Schindler wrote:
> Michael Snow wrote:
>
>> The story is about an author whose Wikipedia biography was apparently
>> falsified, and the information "verified" by somebody impersonating
>> the author on Wikipedia. The Post is written in English, and does not
>> identify the Wikipedia language involved (the incident, it seems,
>> took place on the Hebrew Wikipedia).
>
> I just had a quick look at google and I could not find a page on
> he.wikipedia about him (maybe I did the transscription the Hebrew
> letters wrong).
The Hebrew article, according to the interwiki link on en.wikipedia, is:
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%96%27%D7%A7…
Note that en: currently has the spelling as Jackont, whereas the Post
gives it as Jacont.
> 2003 was far from wikipedia's "breakthrough" in public awareness. So I
> really would like to see the history or the article. After all, this
> article is about people who lied and a book "L for lies" :)
The current Hebrew article was started in 2004. There's a note on the
en: talk page, also dating from 2004, confirming that there was such a
controversy. Unfortunately, I can't read Hebrew to figure out what is
stated there about it. The discrepancy could be because the Post somehow
got the year wrong, or because the incident on he: resulted in the
article being deleted and since replaced with the current article.
--Michael Snow