Would a carrier ever agree that with us, when frankly, at the moment there are better news sources out there? Tris On 6 Jul 2009, at 00:23, "Brian McNeil" <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:

I've thought about making an iPhone application – or at least attempt to – for a while now. The barrier that I had was paying the SDK. Bawolff is right, developing a MobileSafari application would be free-er (and allow other WebKit-based devices ::cough:: Andriod ::cough:: to also get it nicely), but iPhone users like their native applications. Being native would also allow photo/video uploads and location-aware support, something that we can't do in MobileSafari. #Terin On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.com<bawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com> > From what i understand, apple charges money for the right to develop > iphone apps (according to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Store#iPhone_SDK ), so preferably > we'd have to find someone who already develops such apps and thus > already paid the fee. (Perhaps developing web applications are free?) > -- > -bawolff > > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Tris Thomas&lt;tris(a)waterhay.co.uk> > Would a carrier ever agree that with us, when frankly, at the moment > > there are better news sources out there? > > > > Tris > > > > > > > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 00:23, "Brian McNeil" &lt;brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; > > > > >> What we really need is this > http://wikipedia.orange.es/wiki/Portal:Comunidad > >> > >> That's Spanish Wikipedia one click away from the default home page > >> of one of > >> the country's biggest cellular providers. > >> > >> > >> Brian. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wikinews-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tris > >> Thomas > >> Sent: 06 July 2009 00:01 > >> To: wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> Subject: [Wikinews-l] iPhone Application > >> > >> I've been thinking, that it would be awesome if we could get an iPhone > >> application. It could bring literally thousands of new readers and > >> hundreds of new contributors. I would imagine something like the Sky > >> News app, except maybe with audio instead of video and a proper, fully > >> fledged section for people to send in their stories. We could get > >> people around the world contributing from their mobiles, with > >> pictures(and videos!) where they are. I've attached a screenshot of > >> the > >> Sky News app for those interested. > >> > >> Is anyone on Wikinews capable of programming an iPhone app or knows > >> someone who is. Alternatively, might we be able to find someone on > >> Wikipedia etc. who would be willing to do it, if only to add to > >> their "cv"? > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> Tristan Thomas > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikinews-l mailing list > >> Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikinews-l mailing list > >> Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikinews-l mailing list > > Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >

Because MobileSafari doesn't implement them. hasn't safari jumped on the w3c geolocation api bandwagon yet? Safari on the desktop, probably. MobileSafari, probably not. #Terin On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:15 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.com<bawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com > I'm not familiar at all with how the iphone works/mobileSafari and > what not, but why can't we upload things using standard upload form > controls. Also, hasn't safari jumped on the w3c geolocation api > bandwagon yet? > -- > - bawolff > Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 > million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight. > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Terin Stock&lt;terin.stock(a)wikinewsie.org> > I've thought about making an iPhone application – or at least attempt to > – > > for a while now. The barrier that I had was paying the SDK. > > > Bawolff is right, developing a MobileSafari application would be free-er > > (and allow other WebKit-based devices ::cough:: Andriod ::cough:: to also > > get it nicely), but iPhone users like their native applications. > > > Being native would also allow photo/video uploads and location-aware > > support, something that we can't do in MobileSafari. > > > #Terin > > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.com<bawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com>> >> >> From what i understand, apple charges money for the right to develop > >> iphone apps (according to > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Store#iPhone_SDK ), so preferably > >> we'd have to find someone who already develops such apps and thus > >> already paid the fee. (Perhaps developing web applications are free?) > >> -- > >> -bawolff > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Tris Thomas&lt;tris(a)waterhay.co.uk> >> > Would a carrier ever agree that with us, when frankly, at the moment > >> > there are better news sources out there? > >> > >> > Tris > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 6 Jul 2009, at 00:23, "Brian McNeil" &lt;brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> >> > >> > >> >> What we really need is this > >> >> http://wikipedia.orange.es/wiki/Portal:Comunidad > >> >> >> >> That's Spanish Wikipedia one click away from the default home page > >> >> of one of > >> >> the country's biggest cellular providers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian. > >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: wikinews-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tris > >> >> Thomas > >> >> Sent: 06 July 2009 00:01 > >> >> To: wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> Subject: [Wikinews-l] iPhone Application > >> >> >> >> I've been thinking, that it would be awesome if we could get an > iPhone > >> >> application. It could bring literally thousands of new readers and > >> >> hundreds of new contributors. I would imagine something like the Sky > >> >> News app, except maybe with audio instead of video and a proper, > fully > >> >> fledged section for people to send in their stories. We could get > >> >> people around the world contributing from their mobiles, with > >> >> pictures(and videos!) where they are. I've attached a screenshot of > >> >> the > >> >> Sky News app for those interested. > >> >> >> >> Is anyone on Wikinews capable of programming an iPhone app or knows > >> >> someone who is. Alternatively, might we be able to find someone on > >> >> Wikipedia etc. who would be willing to do it, if only to add to > >> >> their "cv"? > >> >> >> >> Thoughts? > >> >> >> >> Tristan Thomas > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Wikinews-l mailing list > >> >> Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Wikinews-l mailing list > >> >> Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikinews-l mailing list > >> > Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikinews-l mailing list > >> Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l

The problem is that one of the main advantages of an app would be the large publicity, as well as the mentioned upload ability. A web app would go unnoticed except by those who visit the site anyway and so would not be worth it. The SDK charge is £100 off the top of my head. I think we either need to find a developer with an account or apply for the Wikimedia Fpundation to pay and then keep the account and release the app under the name of 'The Community'. Although, this might be the way to find a good developer-offer to pay for their license! Over the next few days, can everybody keep an eye out for mentions of developers that might be willing to do it for free. I have a few possibilities as well. On 6 Jul 2009, at 02:56, Terin Stock &lt;terin.stock(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; wrote: