Oh, OK. I haven't read the whole document myself, so I'll check it out later on. Do you think we should create a meta page where all the corrections and additions could be noted down; rather than me scrutinizing this thread for everyone's comments.

--Abbas.

> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:22:17 +0300
> From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association (Semi-final draft)
>
> The appeal am talking about is under membership clause 4 where an
> applicant is given a chance to question in the next AGM why they were
> denied membership after applying for the same.
>
> Regards,
>
> On 6/8/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 00:12:46 +0300
> >> From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
> >> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org; wanjaustev@gmail.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association
> >> (Semi-final draft)
> >>
> >> hello wikimedians,
> >> My suggestions on the draft AOA and MOA.
> >>
> >> *Appeal to be registered.
> >> One year to appeal for registration is quite a long time and I think
> >> we should reduce that to three months unless the reason for denial is
> >> very 'Heavy'.
> >> BTW, What would be the possible grounds to be denied membership??
> >> Someone enlighten me.
> >>
> >>
> >> *The quorum.
> >> Since the members shall be meeting at least thrice in a year, I
> >> propose we take the quorum to be 11 members or a tenth of all our
> >> members which ever is lower.
> >> ( My reason being that, volunteering in Kenya is quite expensive and
> >> we would not want to strain ourselves as we volunteer and I also
> >> believe and hope that everything discussed shall be availed later to
> >> members)
> >>
> >> Echoing Ann, the board members are also included in the quorum.
> >>
> >> Voting
> >> * I think vote by proxy is not good. If the voter is not present at
> >> the time of voting they should forfeit their vote.
> >>
> >> * Tier breaker vote should not be on the shoulders of the person
> >> leading the voting exercise. This is because as the one over seeing
> >> the election they should remain neutral and the matter would rather be
> >> reffered to the board to decide. I would strongly suggest that the
> >> members vote again. The overseer should be non partisan.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Steve.
> >>
> >> On 6/7/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for soptting that typo! Will correct it asap:)
> >> >
> >> > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:55:43 +0300
> >> > From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
> >> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association
> >> > (Semi-final draft)
> >> >
> >> > hi,
> >> >
> >> > Are we registering as 'WIKIMIDIA KENYA' or 'WIKIMEDIA KENYA'
> >> >
> >> > I think there is some error there in the AOA and MOA.
> >> >
> >> > cheers
> >> >
> >> > stephen w. wanjau
> >> >
> >> > Phone: +254 771 557 857
> >> >
> >> > twitter:haha_wanjau
> >> >
> >> > B.Sc statistics and computer science.
> >> >
> >> > JKUAT
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 7, 2011 4:42 PM, "Ann Njeri" <njeriannk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> i think both ordinary and board members should be included in the
> >> >> quorum.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Ann,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think basing quorum on the number of people subscribed to the
> >> >>> mailing
> >> >
> >> >>> list is rather vague, since there are a whole bunch of people who've
> >> >>> subscribed but have never posted on this mailing list nor attended any
> >> >>> meetup. Also, should quorum consist of ordinary members only or board
> >> >
> >> >>> members only or a mix of both?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --Abbas.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ------------------------------
> >> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:52:32 +0300
> >> >>> From: njeriannk@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of
> >> >>> Association
> >> >>> (Semi-final draft)
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>> i think the articles look great. Awesome job. i think it is easier to
> >> >>> make
> >> >>> a decision on the quorum if we Abbas can tell us the members we have
> >> >>> currently. Based on my estimation of the members i would think 10
> >> >>> people
> >> >>> are
> >> >
> >> >>> enough for the quorum.
> >> >>> As for the proxy, i think it would be better to limit them to only
> >> >>> Wikimedia Kenya members. By this i mean that non-members should not be
> >> >>> given
> >> >>> chances to be proxies, only members.
> >> >
> >> >>> Lastly i suggest that from our experience we just write down the
> >> >>> duties
> >> >>> our project managers performed during the pilot plus a few others.
> >> >>> This
> >> >>> includes, writing reports on the project, being accountable for the
> >> >>> money
> >> >
> >> >>> entrusted among other duties.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Abbas Mahmood
> >> >>> <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Greetings,
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have finally managed to get in touch with the advocate and managed
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> get
> >> >>> a draft of the articles of association. My apologies for the delay. I
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> the following comments regarding the attached document:
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - it is a draft copy, so please have a look at it and feel free to
> >> >>> share your thoughts. If there is something left out, kindly let me
> >> >>> know. If
> >> >>> you need the lawyer to clarify some articles, I will be happy to
> >> >>> schedule a
> >> >
> >> >>> meeting with him so that he can clarify the articles as
> >> >>> appropriate.
> >> >>> - I particularly need your input in:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1. Quorum. I remember that the first time I had drated these
> >> >>> bylaws,
> >> >
> >> >>> Oliver had raised an issue on quorum. What kind of quorum do you
> >> >>> think
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> sufficient for meetings?
> >> >>> 2. Proxy. The lawyer has attached a proxy sample in the articles.
> >> >>> Please do tell me if you find it necessary for us to leave it
> >> >>> there.
> >> >
> >> >>> 3. The duties of the project manager.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Looking forward to getting your feedback.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> Abbas.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ps - the next phase after us agreeing on this document is to resubmit
> >> >>> it
> >> >>> to
> >> >
> >> >>> the Chapters Committee for approval.
> >> >>>
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