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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:30:30 -0700
From: Barry Newstead <bnewstead@wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Latest Updates
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Thanks Abbas. It is exciting to see the Kenyan community moving toward
chapter formation.
A few suggestions/thoughts:
- Please do connect with members of ChapCom[1]; they can provide advice
based on their experience working with other countries on chapter
formation which might help you to avoid problems that other groups have
faced in the past
- The South Africa experience was helped by the support of people at
Africa Commons, who are an existing organization and have been able to
provide support; it might be good to connect with a similar organization
in Kenya
- If you need some funds to support the launch process (e.g., to fund
legal work or to organize a workshop), I can provide a grant to help
with these expenses; please follow up with me when you are ready
- If you are going to connect with the Omidyar Network, please keep me
in the loop; I know them well and they are already supporting Wikimedia;
it would be valuable to keep our communications open as multiple parts
of the Wikimedia movement connect with them
Kind regards,
Barry
[1] See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_committee
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_committee>
On 08/13/2010 02:44 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
>
> Thanks, Abbas, for the update.
>
> Knowing me, you will expect me to especially like points nos. 5 and 6
> of the SA WMF chapter draft purposes:
>
> ? To build/facilitate/disseminate/provide knowledge in all SAfrican
> languages
>
> ? To contribute to the development of local languages (all South
> African languages)
>
> Correspondingly, I've been looking at the Kikuyu wikipedia
> (http://ki.wikipedia.org <http://ki.wikipedia.org/>) which could use
> some more support just like the Zulu one (http://zu.wikipedia.org
> <http://zu.wikipedia.org/>) in SA.
>
> Just to add one more development on our own chapter network:
>
> We expect to meet with Dr. Martin Njoroge at Kenyatta University
> sometime between Sep 9 and 17 (date to be confirmed) in order to
> discuss collaboration and potential opportunities for mutual support
> (Dr. Njoroge is the Director of the Confucius Institute, organiser of
> last month's international conference on multilingualism here in
> Nairobi, and a member of the Multilingual Education Network East Africa).
>
> Wenu katika kujenga elimu,
>
> Oliver (aka BT)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Abbas
> Mahmoud
> *Sent:* 13 August 2010 11:24
> *To:* Wikimedia Kenya
> *Subject:* [Wikimedia Kenya] Latest Updates
>
> Hello folks,
>
> It's been a while since I last communicated with you guys, but I have
> some updates regarding our chapter, the South African Chapter and
> Wikimedia in general.
>
> WIKIMEDIA KENYA
> I recently received intelligence from Wikimedia Foundation about
> Omidyar Network. Omidyar Network is an NGO that funds Wikimedia and
> also gives financial assistance to companies in Kenya, Uganda, Zambia,
> etc. I was also told that there could be a high possibility that they
> could support our upcoming chapter get off the ground. I was given
> some connections and I have contacted one of them and I am yet to
> receive a reply.
>
> Wimedia South Africa:
> Also, Delphine was on holiday over the past couple of weeks so we
> weren't able to communicate regarding our chapter's progress. However,
> she recently went to a workshop held by the South African Chapter and
> came up with a report. Please see the report at the end of this email.
> I would also kindly urge you to subscribe to the South African mailing
> list so that we can receive up-to-date intel of what our counterparts
> are doing. Visit
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza to subscribe.
> Also see their meta page for more info:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa.
>
> On the news:
> There has been an interesting saga where the FBI wants it's seal to be
> removed from Wikipedia. Read the full story on the New York Times:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/us/03fbi.html?_r=1. (This is a
> must-read article:-)).
>
> It is also interesting to note that the Swahili Wikipedia, now having
> 18,000 articles is now the largest African-language Wikipedia beating
> the Africaans (South African) Wikipedia that has 15,000 articles!
>
> That's all from me,
>
> I am, yours,
> Abbas Mahmoud.
>
>
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Thanks Abbas,
At the moment please excuse me am cought up in my end of semester e me
xams.Will however be through by 20th and please update me on way forward
and any other happenings.A good number of my friends have shown interest and
would be glad to join us.thnaks once again and good luck to all of us.
Oliver,seems like Dennis is not interested in our idea.He has never
responded to my request.perhaps you could request him and inform him to of
the KU meeting too,perhaps ,he might respond to your request.
thanks too.
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> 7/8 August 2010 (Abbas Mahmoud)
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> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:44:30 +0300
> From: "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_stegen@sil.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Latest Updates
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> Thanks, Abbas, for the update.
>
>
>
> Knowing me, you will expect me to especially like points nos. 5 and 6 of
> the
> SA WMF chapter draft purposes:
>
> * To build/facilitate/disseminate/provide knowledge in all SAfrican
> languages
>
> * To contribute to the development of local languages (all South African
> languages)
>
> Correspondingly, I've been looking at the Kikuyu wikipedia
> (http://ki.wikipedia.org <http://ki.wikipedia.org/> ) which could use some
> more support just like the Zulu one (http://zu.wikipedia.org
> <http://zu.wikipedia.org/> ) in SA.
>
>
>
> Just to add one more development on our own chapter network:
>
> We expect to meet with Dr. Martin Njoroge at Kenyatta University sometime
> between Sep 9 and 17 (date to be confirmed) in order to discuss
> collaboration and potential opportunities for mutual support (Dr. Njoroge
> is
> the Director of the Confucius Institute, organiser of last month's
> international conference on multilingualism here in Nairobi, and a member
> of
> the Multilingual Education Network East Africa).
>
>
>
> Wenu katika kujenga elimu,
>
> Oliver (aka BT)
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abbas
> Mahmoud
> Sent: 13 August 2010 11:24
> To: Wikimedia Kenya
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Latest Updates
>
>
>
> Hello folks,
>
> It's been a while since I last communicated with you guys, but I have some
> updates regarding our chapter, the South African Chapter and Wikimedia in
> general.
>
> WIKIMEDIA KENYA
> I recently received intelligence from Wikimedia Foundation about Omidyar
> Network. Omidyar Network is an NGO that funds Wikimedia and also gives
> financial assistance to companies in Kenya, Uganda, Zambia, etc. I was also
> told that there could be a high possibility that they could support our
> upcoming chapter get off the ground. I was given some connections and I
> have
> contacted one of them and I am yet to receive a reply.
>
> Wimedia South Africa:
> Also, Delphine was on holiday over the past couple of weeks so we weren't
> able to communicate regarding our chapter's progress. However, she recently
> went to a workshop held by the South African Chapter and came up with a
> report. Please see the report at the end of this email. I would also kindly
> urge you to subscribe to the South African mailing list so that we can
> receive up-to-date intel of what our counterparts are doing. Visit
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza to subscribe.
> Also
> see their meta page for more info:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa.
>
> On the news:
> There has been an interesting saga where the FBI wants it's seal to be
> removed from Wikipedia. Read the full story on the New York Times:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/us/03fbi.html?_r=1. (This is a must-read
> article:-)).
>
> It is also interesting to note that the Swahili Wikipedia, now having
> 18,000
> articles is now the largest African-language Wikipedia beating the
> Africaans
> (South African) Wikipedia that has 15,000 articles!
>
> That's all from me,
>
> I am, yours,
> Abbas Mahmoud.
>
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> From: Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] FW: [Wikimedia ZA] Wikimedia South Africa,
> kickoff Workshop - 7/8 August 2010
> To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>
> Below is Delphine's report.
>
> Regards,
> Abbas.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Image by FlamingText.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:14:15 +0200
> > From: notafishz@gmail.com
> > To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Wikimedia South Africa, kickoff Workshop - 7/8
> August 2010
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I am finally finding five minutes to thank you all for the warm
> > welcome and to reiterate that Bence and I, as well as any other member
> > of the chapters committee, are here to help with any questions you
> > might have.
> >
> > Here is our "wikimedia report" of our workshop.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Delphine
> >
> > ========
> > Wikimedia South Africa, kickoff Workshop - 7/8 August 2010
> >
> > == BACKGROUND ==
> > Wikimedia activities in South Africa are not exactly new, in 2007,
> > iCommons and the Wikimedia Foundation organised a Wikipedia Academy in
> > Johannesburg, while a group of Wikimedians started to put together a
> > bid for Wikimania. The South African chapter idea probably finds its
> > roots in those two initiatives, but for lack of momentum at the time,
> > did not pick up. In 2010, Achal Prabhala, member of the advisory board
> > of the Wikimedia Foundation, who helped found the Indian Chapter, put
> > the idea back on track.
> >
> > Achal, with the help of Kerryn McKay and Daniela Faris of the African
> > Commons Project [1], advertised the idea of a workshop to kick off a
> > South African chapter, and invited various wikipedians and otherwise
> > interested people (FOSS activists, users of Wikipedia, non-profit
> > experienced people) to participate in a workshop destined to kick off
> > a South African chapter.
> >
> > == WORKSHOP ==
> > The Workshop gathered around 25 people [2] from different backgrounds,
> > among which Ian Gilfillan, who had been leading the Wikimania bid and
> > Nhlanhla Mabaso, Head of CNS at The Universtiy of the Witwatersrand,
> > who played a great role in reaching out far and wide for interested
> > (and interesting) people. Bence Damokos and myself attended as members
> > of the chapters committee.
> >
> > === Saturday, 7th August ===
> > The session started with an introduction to the Wikimedia Universe,
> > focusing on the existing organisations (Foundation and Chapters) and
> > outlining the existing processes to set up a chapter, as well as what
> > chapters do.
> > After a round of introduction of each of the participants, the group
> > then split into smaller working sessions which reflected on the
> > following topics:
> > *Potential activities and initiatives for a South African Chapter
> > *Vision of a Wikimedia Chapter in South Africa
> > *Purpose of a Wikimedia Chapter in South Africa
> > *Challenges that a Wikimedia Chapter in South Africa might face
> >
> > The results of these sessions can be found on meta here:
> >
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_South_Africa&oldid=2072112
> >
> >
> > Of those results, two have particularly caught our attention as being
> > specific to South Africa, or at least different than one might expect
> > from such a session in other chapter groups, namely:
> >
> > *Ownership of Wikimedia to South Africans (in the purpose section):
> > this was meant as giving the chapter the task of making sure that
> > Wikimedia projects don't appear too "foreign" or even too "western",
> > but rather would hopefully be recognized as fair in representing South
> > Africa but also the whole African continent.
> >
> > *Documenting content which is only orally available; finding a
> > workable citation method for languages with oral traditions (in the
> > challenges section): a task which actually questions fundamental
> > pillars of Wikipedia (no original research and "cite your sources")
> > and is much more critical in many of the African languages than maybe
> > in western languages.
> >
> > A third point that was unique - so far - to South Africa, though maybe
> > less novel than the above two was the role and share of mobile
> > internet access and the associated opportunities and challenges that
> > it will bring. Africa is a continent where internet access through
> > mobile phones is the rule rather than the exception, and efforts to
> > make Wikipedia accessible not only to read, but also to edit, are a
> > real challenge that an African chapter should tackle.
> >
> > === Sunday, 8th August ===
> > The Sunday session focused rather on presenting and discussing the
> > different legal options for a Chapter in South Africa as well as work
> > on a timeline of next steps and the formation of a team for the
> > creation of the chapter. Results can be found here:
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_South_Africa&oldid=2072112#Proposed_Timeline
> >
> > == CONCLUSION ==
> > The idea of fostering the creation of a chapter by enabling people to
> > meet, specifically reaching out to potentially interested people and
> > bringing them together for a workshop is somewhat of a novel idea in
> > chapter creation. We found it to be extremely interesting and
> > productive. It allows, in countries where getting together, or taking
> > the first (legal) steps might be a real hurdle to chapter creation, to
> > be extremely helpful in ensuring that diversity of the people
> > represented in the first step of the chapter is achieved.
> >
> > Bence and I would like to thank Achal for starting this process,
> > Kerryn and Daniela for organising the workshop and everyone present
> > for their participation and the lively dicussions. We are confident
> > that such initiatives should be fostered in countries where founding a
> > chapter might encounter difficulties to emerge.
> >
> > The future of Wikimedia South Africa is discussed on the wikimediaza
> > mailing list:
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza, as well as
> > on meta. Please join the conversation.
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.africancommons.org/about/
> > [2]
> http://picasaweb.google.com/davidrichfield/Wikimedia#5502986611082048162
> >
> > --
> > ~notafish
> >
> > NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
> get lost.
> > Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
> http://blog.notanendive.org
> >
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