This is a great step and am glad we have got this far.

David.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:22 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
The appeal am talking about is under membership clause 4 where an
applicant is given a chance to question in the next AGM why they were
denied membership after applying for the same.

Regards,

On 6/8/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 00:12:46 +0300
>> From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org; wanjaustev@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association
>> (Semi-final draft)
>>
>> hello wikimedians,
>> My suggestions on the draft AOA and MOA.
>>
>> *Appeal to be registered.
>> One year to appeal for registration is quite a long time and I think
>> we should reduce that to three months unless the reason for denial is
>> very 'Heavy'.
>> BTW, What would be the possible grounds to be denied membership??
>> Someone enlighten me.
>>
>>
>> *The quorum.
>> Since the members shall be meeting at least thrice in a year, I
>> propose we take the quorum to be 11 members or a tenth of all our
>> members which ever is lower.
>> ( My reason being that, volunteering in Kenya is quite expensive and
>> we would not want to strain ourselves as we volunteer and I also
>> believe and hope that everything discussed shall be availed later to
>> members)
>>
>> Echoing Ann, the board members are also included in the quorum.
>>
>> Voting
>> * I think vote by proxy is not good. If the voter is not present at
>> the time of voting they should forfeit their vote.
>>
>> * Tier breaker vote should not be on the shoulders of the person
>> leading the voting exercise. This is because as the one over seeing
>> the election they should remain neutral and the matter would rather be
>> reffered to the board to decide. I would strongly suggest that the
>> members vote again. The overseer should be non partisan.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve.
>>
>> On 6/7/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for soptting that typo! Will correct it asap:)
>> >
>> > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:55:43 +0300
>> > From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
>> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association
>> > (Semi-final draft)
>> >
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > Are we registering as 'WIKIMIDIA KENYA' or 'WIKIMEDIA KENYA'
>> >
>> > I think there is some error there in the AOA and MOA.
>> >
>> > cheers
>> >
>> > stephen w. wanjau
>> >
>> > Phone: +254 771 557 857
>> >
>> > twitter:haha_wanjau
>> >
>> > B.Sc statistics and computer science.
>> >
>> > JKUAT
>> >
>> > On Jun 7, 2011 4:42 PM, "Ann Njeri" <njeriannk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> i think both ordinary and board members should be included in the
>> >> quorum.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Ann,
>> >>>
>> >>> I think basing quorum on the number of people subscribed to the
>> >>> mailing
>> >
>> >>> list is rather vague, since there are a whole bunch of people who've
>> >>> subscribed but have never posted on this mailing list nor attended any
>> >>> meetup. Also, should quorum consist of ordinary members only or board
>> >
>> >>> members only or a mix of both?
>> >>>
>> >>> --Abbas.
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------
>> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:52:32 +0300
>> >>> From: njeriannk@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of
>> >>> Association
>> >>> (Semi-final draft)
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Hi,
>> >>>  i think the articles look great. Awesome job. i think it is easier to
>> >>> make
>> >>> a decision on the quorum if we Abbas can tell us the members we have
>> >>> currently. Based on my estimation of the members i would think 10
>> >>> people
>> >>> are
>> >
>> >>> enough for the quorum.
>> >>> As for the proxy, i think it would be better to limit them to only
>> >>> Wikimedia Kenya members. By this i mean that non-members should not be
>> >>> given
>> >>> chances to be proxies, only members.
>> >
>> >>> Lastly i suggest that from our experience we just write down the
>> >>> duties
>> >>> our project managers performed during the pilot plus a few others.
>> >>> This
>> >>> includes, writing reports on the project, being accountable for the
>> >>> money
>> >
>> >>> entrusted among other duties.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Abbas Mahmood
>> >>> <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Greetings,
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> I have finally managed to get in touch with the advocate and managed
>> >>> to
>> >>> get
>> >>> a draft of the articles of association. My apologies for the delay. I
>> >>> have
>> >>> the following comments regarding the attached document:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    - it is a draft copy, so please have a look at it and feel free to
>> >>>    share your thoughts. If there is something left out, kindly let me
>> >>> know. If
>> >>>    you need the lawyer to clarify some articles, I will be happy to
>> >>> schedule a
>> >
>> >>>    meeting with him so that he can clarify the articles as
>> >>> appropriate.
>> >>>    - I particularly need your input in:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    1. Quorum. I remember that the first time I had drated these
>> >>> bylaws,
>> >
>> >>>    Oliver had raised an issue on quorum. What kind of quorum do you
>> >>> think
>> >>> is
>> >>>    sufficient for meetings?
>> >>>    2. Proxy. The lawyer has attached a proxy sample in the articles.
>> >>>    Please do tell me if you find it necessary for us to leave it
>> >>> there.
>> >
>> >>>    3. The duties of the project manager.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking forward to getting your feedback.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Abbas.
>> >>>
>> >>> ps - the next phase after us agreeing on this document is to resubmit
>> >>> it
>> >>> to
>> >
>> >>> the Chapters Committee for approval.
>> >>>
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