Hi folks,

Sue forwarded me this thread.

The best way to get people like that taken care of is through the email response team - there's a group of really wonderful volunteers who would love to help out in cases like that.

You can have the person write to info-en-q@wikimedia.org (that's info, english, quality) and the email response team will take it from there.

If there's one that's particularly bad, you might want to send it my way and I'll try to find just the right volunteer for them, but on the whole, the email response team is AMAZING.

info-en-q@wikimedia.org.

pb
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Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles
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From: <wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com>
Date: 27 November 2011 22:00
To: Wikipedia India Mailing List <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>

Hiya,

Me and a couple of others have been contacted by a couple of people of stature having Wikipedia articles about themselves recently about the articles having derogatory and inaccurate information about them. Is there any procedure set which such people can follow to have an admin look into their page?

Kind Regards,

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From: Bala Jeyaraman <sodabottle@gmail.com>
Date: 27 November 2011 22:03
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Yes there is. direct them to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOPROB#Problems_in_an_article_about_you

But they shouldn't be expecting wikipedia to do a whitewashing / PR fluff job on it. Sometimes, if they are actually trying to remove negative material about them (and there is a ton of it in RS) it leads to a backlash and more gets added to the article. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striesand_effect)

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WhereDevilsDare,

As Bala pointed out, pages have to be neutral.

Example:Look at any Politician's page, it's always Pro-them, rarely is it balanced.

We need to have things neutral.

If these guys get to decide what goes on their page, it'll be a Conflict of Interest.

Even a simple controversy against a person, if added, shouldn't be removed.

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From: <wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 01:42
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The issues were of information added without RS, biased information and language that was encyclopedic. The issue was sorted but I thought there may be a formal process - thanks to Soda Bottle for providing the link.

Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:58:10 +0530
From: parakara.ghoda@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles

This is true, but it does not mean that unproven allegations form part of acceptable content, I think. If a person is accused, for instance, in court, that charge may be mentioned, but not giving the impression the charge is proven. Citations will be very important in such situations. Since only a handful of courts in India have gone online, it may be difficult to assert charges filed in some courts.

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Vickram
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From: Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta@gmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 07:27
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Totally agree with you, Bala.

I've been cc-d on a couple of these emails and unfortunately, people who are famous in their fields, do seem to feel they are above examination. The attitude that sometimes comes across is this: "How dare anyone write negatively about me!" (Regardless of the facts of the situ).

So if we whitewash negative information in these situations, knowledge and neutrality are the first casualties.

Best

Bishakha