On 20/02/2008, daniwo59(a)aol.com <daniwo59(a)aol.com> wrote: Fortunately the actual term is life+70 not life+95 (US has publication+95 in some cases and Mexico has life+100 but no one has life+95). In the EU Long Way to Tipperary will therefor entered the public domain at midnight Jan 1st 2009 (thus the wide celebration of public domain day with people staying up to midnight to celebrate) meaning that within the EU assuming no law changes the song will be completely public domain on that date. Any Vera Lynn recording made in 1939 of the song would also be completely in the public domain in the EU on that date. -- geni

In this case Vera Lynn's copyright as a performer has already expired but would be reinstated by the EU extension. Composer: Life + 95 Performer: recording + 50 The proposed change is to performer, to +95. The song remains under copyright due to the composer timescale, not the performer. Brian McNeil -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of daniwo59(a)aol.com Sent: 20 February 2008 23:16 To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF/EFF and Copyright extension In a message dated 2/20/2008 4:57:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org writes: You need to look up who wrote these songs, and when they died. You can, with a fair degree of certainty, say that anything written during the 20th century won't be available to us. If it was written more than a hundred years ago you're starting to look at it being available to us in the near future, but that's where the performer's (c) comes in and the proposed legislation impacts us. Long Way to Tipperary was cowritten by Jack Judge, who died in 1938, and Harry Williams who died in 1922. If it were solely Williams, the song would have entered the public domain in 2017, i.e., nine years from now. On the other hand, Vera Lynn, who recorded it in 1939, is still alive today. In other words, not in the lifetime of anyone actually reading this email. Danny **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l