Who said we are struggling to come up with ideas? The page you link to
hasn't been up long and already has several good ideas on it.
On Aug 6, 2012 9:51 PM, "Andreas Kolbe" <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Richard, that is fine. But surely you can see that
it's inappropriate to
have the BBC imply, on a day when we have an outage, that we're strapped
for cash to keep Wikipedia running, holding the site together "with gaffer
tape and string", and need donations, while in fact we have built up
reserves of $27.7 million, equivalent to a full year's spending at
2011-2012 levels, and Wikimedians struggle to come up with zany ideas on
how to spend £10k. Nothing against barges, and canals ... I love them.
By the way, any further ideas for a Wikimedia UK project can be added to
this page:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2013_Activity_Plan/Ideas
Andreas
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Richard Symonds <
richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Andreas,
That idea - my idea - is taken wildly out-of-context, and I feel I have
to
step in and defend it. We were all asked to come
up with a crazy idea
that
could costs about £10k as part of a brainstorming
session - the canal
boat
idea was my contribution. As you know, I know a
fair bit about
narrowboats,
and when asked to come up with a crazy idea,
it's usually where I start.
There's nothing wrong with liking boats. It's a running joke with me (and
my picture on ED is of me in a sailor suit...)
It wasn't long ago that people on the WMUK list were suggesting ideas
like
funding open-source ocean-going ROVs, to take
photos of shipwrecks -
while
not all of these ideas are workable, I think
it's fantastic that we're
having such creative ideas. Innovation is a fantastic thing: just because
something is wacky and zany, doesn't mean that it's a waste of money;
equally just because something isn't feeding African orphans, doesn't
mean
it's not a charitable endeavour. There are UK
charities out there that
exist just to fund donkeys, or of course charities like KCM Europe (
http://www.kcm.org.uk/) which exist for the advancement of religion. It
is
a matter of personal choice for the donor as to
where a donor's money
goes.
I am confident that this year, we'll be
raising money for some fantastic
projects - a larger version of Monmouthpedia, or a new digitization
project
with the National Archives - or maybe even the
next Wikidata.
To conclude, I want to share my own feelings on who I donate to: I donate
to several charities, one of which is a homelessness charity who have
helped me and my loved ones greatly in the past. The others are all
education charities. This is because it's my belief that, in the long
term,
free education for all is the best way to solve
world poverty, world
hunger
and conflict. You might disagree - I daresay many
people would - but I
feel
that if only we were all as wise as a wise old
owl, the world would be a
much, much better place.
Richard Symonds
(Wikimedia UK staff, but with my volunteer hat on).
On 6 August 2012 21:06, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:54 PM, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > On 6 August 2012 20:43, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > David, the BBC says you told them the following:
> >
> >
> > See, this is where you part ways with how the media works. These days
> > I count it as a win if anything in quotes uses words I've ever used
in
> > my life.
>
>
>
> Well, glad to hear the words gaffer tape and string never crossed your
> lips, then. I still think you should call them and disabuse them of
their
notion
that WMF is desperately short of cash.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> > On 6 August 2012 20:43, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Could you get back to the BBC, please, David, and tell them that
they
> > > somehow seem to have gotten hold
of the wrong end of the stick
here?
> And
> > > could you drop the "gaffer tape and string" jokes next time
round?
> >
> > We operate the fifth most visited website in the world on an
> > operations budget of a few million dollars. It is you that has the
> > wrong end of the stick...
>
>
>
> $35 million is not "a few million dollars". Wikipedia was indeed run
on a
> budget of a few million dollars a few years
ago, but that's no longer
the
> case. And the chapters are having to come up
with creative ideas to
spend
> their money. One of the latest suggestions
raised by a Wikimedia UK
staff
member
was that ...
---o0o---
We could put a volunteer or two on a specially fitted-out (and
Wikipedia-liveried?) live-aboard boat for the summer, and have them map
the
> canal network - taking photos of every building, every lock, and even
> taking video footage of sections of the trip from a roof-mounted
camera.
A
> GPS system would trace the entire route for Open Street Map. British
> Waterways may also be interested, as we'd essentially be doing a
> mini-survey of the network, including all the structures, for them. We
> could fit the inside of the barge with a small supply of educational
> materials and a marquis for stopping the 'wiki-barge' in towns along
the
> way.*What would we need?* - A narrowboat, to
hire, for the summer -
needs
to be
quite small. Two volunteers, technically minded, at least one of
whom
> knows about narrowboats. GPS equipment (possibly able to loan from OSM
or
> British Waterways?). A 3G internet
connection (wouldn't work
everywhere,
> but would work when near a village/town). A
camera (and possibly a
> video-camera). Lots of hard drive space. Expenses for the volunteers
> aboard. Brochures/booklets.
>
> ---o0o---
>
> All fine and dandy, but then let's please do our best to ensure that
the
> BBC don't print "gaffer tape and
string" sob stories about us. The
tenner
that
someone in India sends us might indeed be better spent on a local
charity there that actually feeds someone, or keeps someone healthy.
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